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Old 9th July 2011, 20:06   #11
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I think the 19" wheels are an embarrassment to BMW. Cheap, lazy cop out. Even the other wheels offered on the standard f10's are far superior. There should be a separation from the ///M models. I am one who likes the the OEM look if they do it right. The 19" wheels it comes with is so very wrong. Yes, the 20''s look pretty nice only given as an $$$ "Option"!!! Should be a standard.
20" wheels would slightly hinder performance, both with handling and acceleration vs. 19" wheels due to the extra rotating mass and thinner sidewall tires. Gas mileage might be ever so minimally affected too by the extra weight.

Funny how everyone complains about how heavy and how "poor" performing this car is going to be vs. expectations, yet here's an example of wanting your cake and eating it too. So what do you want? To perform better or look better?

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20" wheels would slightly hinder performance, both with handling and acceleration vs. 19" wheels due to the extra rotating mass and thinner sidewall tires. Gas mileage might be ever so minimally affected too by the extra weight.

Funny how everyone complains about how heavy and how "poor" performing this car is going to be vs. expectations, yet here's an example of wanting your cake and eating it too. So what do you want? To perform better or look better?
Honestly a little bit of both. If I was only basing a purchase on performance numbers I would not be buying a M5. There are many cars out that will out perform the ///M cars for a lot less money. We all know that.

2012 GT-R around the ring 7.24.22 and a claimed 0-60mph in 2.9 second. Under a $100K. Thanks bananas!

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20" wheels would slightly hinder performance, both with handling and acceleration vs. 19" wheels due to the extra rotating mass and thinner sidewall tires. Gas mileage might be ever so minimally affected too by the extra weight.

Funny how everyone complains about how heavy and how "poor" performing this car is going to be vs. expectations, yet here's an example of wanting your cake and eating it too. So what do you want? To perform better or look better?
That's the problem when you come from an E60 M5, although it has a few quirks, the car quickly spoils you for everything else.
In my opinion, it truly is a case of having your cake and eating it too. Beautiful aggressive styling and wicked V10 and all the
electronic toys in one package. E60 M5 wheels are also beautiful and look good on the car. In retrospect, I guess this problem really
isn't one and were just plain spoiled and/or damn lucky to be the position we are in
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Honestly a little bit of both. If I was only basing a purchase on performance numbers I would not be buying a M5. There are many cars out that will out perform the ///M cars for a lot less money. We all know that.

2012 GT-R around the ring 7.24.22 and a claimed 0-60mph in 2.9 second. Under a $100K. Thanks bananas!

That is unfair to compare GT-R with the M5.. Try taking a trip with wife and kids in the GT-R and ask them how they like it..
In my opinion you compare GT-R with ZR1 or 911 TT or GT2 since they are in similar class.. The M5 you compare with AMG E63 or CTS-V or RS6..

I understand GT-R price is less than $100K BUT Nissan's true cost for GT-R is much more than their pricepoint.. I doubt they make much profit from the GT-R.. shiny pony to show they can produce a supercar that can compete and beat the best out there.. and it does.. so YES it will prob crush M5 time but they are not same car much less in same class..
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You're decision to not get a vehicle is based on whether or not you like the OEM wheels?
Without having even driven it yet to come to an informed choice?
For those of us who live in the northern climates, the choice is easier. I use the OEM 19" wheels as my winter wheels, and buy my own 20" wheels at Tirerack. I'll need to cut a deal with the dealer on the OEM tires though.
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For those of us who live in the northern climates, the choice is easier. I use the OEM 19" wheels as my winter wheels, and buy my own 20" wheels at Tirerack. I'll need to cut a deal with the dealer on the OEM tires though.
Amen on the tires! I need new tires now and don't really want to drop over 3k on the tires.
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