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F10 M5 Discussion 2010- Discussion about the next upcoming generation M5 based on the next generation 5-series, the F10.

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post #11 of 30 Old 28th June 2011, 01:04 AM
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we have the technology people. there is no reason for panic. the turbo lags of yesteryears was due to the low compression we had to run and the lack of computing power to make it work right. BMW f10 m5 is a 10:1 compression ratio 23 psi of boost 560 hp engine which can achieve 20+ mpg. nobody would warranty a car like that 10 years ago. now there it is. car makers always cry about governmental demands but they mostly find ways to improve their cars. that is the business they are in. we will have the technology people. there is no reason for panic. the horsepower race will go on forever.
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we have the technology people. there is no reason for panic. the turbo lags of yesteryears was due to the low compression we had to run and the lack of computing power to make it work right. BMW f10 m5 is a 10:1 compression ratio 23 psi of boost 560 hp engine which can achieve 20+ mpg. nobody would warranty a car like that 10 years ago. now there it is. car makers always cry about governmental demands but they mostly find ways to improve their cars. that is the business they are in. we will have the technology people. there is no reason for panic. the horsepower race will go on forever.


You want to talk about lag, let's talk about giving the E60 M5 gas at 2500 rpms. ....... .

The new M5 will have you pinned back at your seat at 2500rpms.
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Im not opposed at all to forced induction. Especially with the way gas prices are going. In addition to that they are much easier to tune and the drivability is usually very good as well. Look at what MTM has been doing the Audi's for years. If the latest MTM Bi-Turbo V10 doesnt get your blood pumping you must be dead.
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Why would it be the end? These are fleet average numbers. High end sports/performance cars constitute such a small percentage of sales that they don't matter. They'll either get an exemption for low volume production cars or there will be a gas guzzler tax, same as always.

This is just fear mongering backed by BMW's ///Marketing of why it's a "good" thing they've abandoned their core values.
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Now, it may be that BMW has the greatest turbo engine ever made - very possible. Still, it won't be as great an engine as the E60 V10.
That's VERY subjective.
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I'm interested to see what F1 does about potentially going turbocharged in the next season - Bernie's big gripe was the sound would be lost. Greatest minds in car engineering and design might just come up with the best of both worlds that we could easily see on cars be 2025.
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Year model 2025 BMW M5 will be a 4 cylinder quad turbo or an all electric. Got it.
No, No, No!!!

It will be a TWO cylinder, Octa Turbo.
Got it?

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No, No, No!!!

It will be a TWO cylinder, Octa Turbo.
Got it?
Oh yes, of course, what was I thinking?!?!?!
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For years BMW hammered on AMG, claiming that AMG's methodology of sticking the same engine into different cars was poor design, and that is what separated M division from AMG. But now BMW has started following the same practice by sticking a truck engine into the M5/M6.
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