I drove with it in a 750Li XDrive and the problem was that you never had the guts / nerves to 100% rely on it, kind of like PDC after you done your first mistake with it
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Originally Posted by avlnch
5AD Lane departure warning system 333.33 66.67 400.00 5AG Lane change warning system 391.67 78.33 470.00
The 5AG option for Lane Change Warning System is very cool... glad that BMW put that on the M5. Basically it is just like AMG's blind spot assistant. BMW puts a small triangle on the left and right mirror, positioned on the paint portion/exterior shell of the mirror, but placed so it is only easily visible if your sitting in the car. That is why I or anyone else haven't seen it in the many recent press photos.
It will stay off or orange or red if someone is in your blind spot. Handy to have when you are tired and want to rely on it.
I am all for pushing BMW to make better cars, gives us more HP, go faster, etc.
But comments suggesting that it's slower than an e60 don't really make sense. In what way is it slower than an E60?
Parker
E60 M5, 204mph, F10 M5 190mph. Stands to reason the F10 will start to struggle to get to the 190 mark long before the E60 M5 starts to struggle, which is at around 180-185 when changing into 7th.
Ok it's 0.1seconds faster to 60, hardly a massive progression is it. Get the F10 and E60 on the motor way about 100mph and the E60 will hapilly cruise past the F10 me thinks.
I'm still angry and pissed that BMW release this worst upgrade of an M5 since M5s began. It's the lowest percent of improvement in terms of power and performance since they started production of M5s. To me it's a sell out to the tree huggers to keep emissions down. I might calm down in a year or a few months, but for now, to me at least the F10 is a MASSIVE let down and junk.
We have no reason to believe the F10 M5 won't be faster on the top end.
190 MPH is the limit from the factory, but so what? At least in the US the E60 M5 was limited to 150 (approximately) from the factory. So the F10 is a 40mph improvement (assuming you get the option to raise the limiter). I'm willing to bet a ton of companies are going to completely remove the limiter. And once they do that the F10 should absolutely be faster than the E60.
And I have to ask: does top speed really matter? I'm much more concerned about cornering at 80mph than whether it goes 202mph or 208mph on the top end. I've taken an E39 M5 to 180, an E60 M5 to 150. To me the absolute LEAST important performance statistic is top speed.
I really, really doubt BMW would release a F10 M5 that was slower than its predecessor. At any speed. BMW is one of the most successful car companies in the world. I see no reason to believe they would take their "Halo" sedan and make it slower than its predecessor.
Since every iteration of the M5 has been faster than the previous generation - logic would dictate the F10 will be faster than the E60. Your argument makes little or no sense. We just saw ring times on the F10 below 8 minutes - some 18 seconds faster than the E60. The F10 has more HP, more torque, better gas mileage and handles better than the E60. Seriously - the E60 will pull on the F10 at 190 MPH? Is this the best you can come up with?
I take everyones point. The standard F10 M5 will still be limited to 155mph. As an extra it can be removed to allow the car to hit it's top speed 190mph. Different strokes for different folks, some people want a ring taxi? I'd suggest ANY M5 is not the best car for that. Some people want to corner at 80mph, I'd suggest there are better cars than any M5 for that also.
For me I drive motorways for around 30,000 miles a year, half the time (the beginning of the day!) at 5am, really top speed IS an issue at that time of day on empty autobahns and motorways. It REALLY doesn't take long or much effort to get an E60 M5 to 180 or 190. For me the M5 has always been about having obscene power when I want it, yes mostly in a straight line, and comfort when I can;t achieve those speeds! In a nut shell it's down to the indivuals choice, my choice was the M5 as motorway cruiser at highspeed, the latest M5 is not as fast for the motorway and imho is nto worth the 90k price tag it comes with.
Still I understand ther are MANY more people out there that will never cover the miles I cover in an M5 and want the M5 for totally different reasons. That's all cool. For me it's game over with the dissapointment the F10 has bought me.
So yup this is the best I can come up with, as someone who has driven more miles in various M5s than just about anyone else I'd guess! For me 180-200mph is a reality and on a very regular basis and I select my car on its comfort, it's gadets AND its higher end speed. You want it for something else cool, but don't be telling me that my desires and requirements are wrong beause they are different from others desires and requirements.
Curious - what other cars out there can sit five comfortably, have 500+ HP, have a 7 speed DCT or traditional manual, can lap the ring in less than 8 minutes and still putt around town like a normal series car? The list is short.
If you don't like the F10 - don't buy it. What are your other choices?
5AD Lane departure warning system 333.33 66.67 400.00 5AG Lane change warning system 391.67 78.33 470.00
The 5AG option for Lane Change Warning System is very cool... glad that BMW put that on the M5. Basically it is just like AMG's blind spot assistant. BMW puts a small triangle on the left and right mirror, positioned on the paint portion/exterior shell of the mirror, but placed so it is only easily visible if your sitting in the car. That is why I or anyone else haven't seen it in the many recent press photos.
It will stay off or orange or red if someone is in your blind spot. Handy to have when you are tired and want to rely on it.
Yeah - we have this on my wife's new 528i along with lane departure warning (which vibrates the steering wheel if you fail to signal and drift out of your lane). The blind spot detection only works if you are already looking at the side mirror, so really bad/tired drivers don't get much benefit, especially during daylight.
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