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F10 M5 Discussion 2010- Discussion about the next upcoming generation M5 based on the next generation 5-series, the F10.

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post #31 of 38 Old 29th June 2011, 07:30 PM Thread Starter
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There is always possible to turn things around and say it in a negative light.

This is a sports saloon and if it can do Nordschleife in sub 8 min that is GREAT.

COuld be BETTER comfort thansk to double clutch and a more advanced chassis and suspension.

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+1, how could it not?, ....and its going to cause significantly more wear and tear on everything else...strange decision for a luxury driven sports saloon...
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Gustav everything(well, almost everything) has its plus and minus side. I myself wouldn't put it on M5 or even M6, maybe I would keep it for some hardcore M3/M5 CSL variant..
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i wonder if this will be at the expense of ride comfort?

+1, how could it not?, ....and its going to cause significantly more wear and tear on everything else...strange decision for a luxury driven sports saloon...
Give the suspension engineers at BMW some credit. I'm sure they didn't just 'throw in some solid bushings' without thinking these and a lot of other issues through VERY thoroughly. BMW's are known for their ability to stand up over time, and I think the engineers are keeping this in mind.

In terms of the ride comfort, the car is designed to appeal to a more 'upscale' and luxury oriented crowd. I will absolutely guarantee you that the F10 M5 will have a better, more comfortable ride than the E60.

How could it not?

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There is always possible to turn things around and say it in a negative light.

This is a sports saloon and if it can do Nordschleife in sub 8 min that is GREAT.

COuld be BETTER comfort thansk to double clutch and a more advanced chassis and suspension.

im sure they have something figured out, it just sounds on "paper" like it would lead to significant road harshness on rough surfaces, and as their new focus has been towards the luxury end of the spectrum with the F10, it almost seems self defeating...I agree that the lap time sounds great (if trully possible on a PROD car setup incl tires and suspension), but again they are perhaps defying physics with the technology which is good or bad depending on your perspective....it would have been much better if they retained the dimensions of the e60, added the new engine tech due to its new green mantra, and reduced the weight, this combination would have assured a sub 8 min lap with breating room, and put m back on what I believe to be its original roots...jmho

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Interesting....

Hey guys, just a question.

Why was it when the link in the post below was posted which claimed the E60 M5 did a 7:52 around Nurburgring with a BMW test driver everyone was making excuses as to why it couldn't happen (wrong course length, etc...) , but now that BMW gets the F10 to do a 7:55 under the same circumstances, few people disagree?

7:52 for E60 M5 at Nurburgring?


Unfortuneately, it appears the link to the magazine article is now expired.
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According to Autocar, the new TT E63 has run a sub 8-minute time too. Looking forward to seeing some comparisons - without doubt the competition is much closer than previous generations.
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According to Autocar, the new TT E63 has run a sub 8-minute time too. Looking forward to seeing some comparisons - without doubt the competition is much closer than previous generations.
Yep, good to see the competition is raising the bar.

As an indication of the new car’s added performance potential AMG’s new model manager, Christoph Jung, says pre-production prototype versions of the new E63 have already shaved ten seconds off the time the old model established at the Nurburgring, bringing it under eight minutes for the first time. Not too shabby for a car that car carry five adults and nominal 540-litres of luggage in saloon guise, rising to 695-litres for the estate.

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Yep, good to see the competition is raising the bar.

As an indication of the new car’s added performance potential AMG’s new model manager, Christoph Jung, says pre-production prototype versions of the new E63 have already shaved ten seconds off the time the old model established at the Nurburgring, bringing it under eight minutes for the first time. Not too shabby for a car that car carry five adults and nominal 540-litres of luggage in saloon guise, rising to 695-litres for the estate.
The CLS63 should be even quicker. It sits lower and wider than the E63 and the weight penalty is only ~50kg. With carbon ceramic brakes, limited slip diff and the 557hp package, it will be a monster.

I might say goodbye to BMW soon...
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