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Old 21st June 2011, 18:42   #1
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Here is proof that the F10 M5 has the potential to be a Beast!

So I saw this a while back and it really got me thinking about the future of Turbochargers in ///M cars. I was one of the those people who worried about the almost 4,500 lbs weight of the F10 M5, but after seeing what Twin Turbos in a 6,000 lbs Cadillac Escalade can do, I don't worry as much anymore. It's also true if you think about tuned 335i's vs stock E92 M3's.


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So I saw this a while back and it really got me thinking about the future of Turbochargers in ///M cars. I was one of the those people who worried about the almost 4,500 lbs weight of the F10 M5, but after seeing what Twin Turbos in a 6,000 lbs Cadillac Escalade can do, I don't worry as much anymore. It's also true if you think about tuned 335i's vs stock E92 M3's.

Although the F10 M5 has the potential to be a Beast in the straight line, it still won't be able to keep up with a Z4///M in the twisties, or even an E60 ///M5 in the twisties, is my opinion. For proof of that look up the new video of the new RS5 vs the E92 M3, the E92 M3 still wins in the twisties because it's lighter, even though the RS5 has the advantage of AWD. For this reason I am a little worried about the ring time of the F10 compared to the E60. The E60 M5 is just so much lighter.

YouTube - ‪Nissan GT-R vs. Hennesey Cadillac Escalade‬‏

Edit: I had trouble embedding the video, for some reason it won't embed.

Might want to recheck some of your info. You're wrong on a number of fronts including weight and the ability for this car to handle as well as the E60 M5.

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Might want to recheck some of your info. You're wrong on a number of fronts including weight and the ability for this car to handle as well as the E60 M5.
I hope I'm wrong, and you're right.
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RS5 vs M3. Why doesn't the RS5 handle better?

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Yes, in a straight line the weight can be overcome by hp (as shown in the video). But on the handling side of the equation, every extra pound of weight has a negative consequence. There is reason that an F1 car weighs 1000 lbs, and then they add balast (in the places to help the balance of the car to the track) to get to the minimum of 1,411. In F1 the extra weight is really not a penalty to the accelleration of the car but huge penalty to the handling of the car.

Same thing with a car like the M5. Add an extra 500 lbs to the car and the accelleration is not likely to change as much as you would think. But on the track it would be very very noticible in the time around a circuit.
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Yes, in a straight line the weight can be overcome by hp (as shown in the video). But on the handling side of the equation, every extra pound of weight has a negative consequence. There is reason that an F1 car weighs 1000 lbs, and then they add balast (in the places to help the balance of the car to the track) to get to the minimum of 1,411. In F1 the extra weight is really not a penalty to the accelleration of the car but huge penalty to the handling of the car.

Same thing with a car like the M5. Add an extra 500 lbs to the car and the accelleration is not likely to change as much as you would think. But on the track it would be very very noticible in the time around a circuit.
My point exactly.
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But on the handling side of the equation, every extra pound of weight has a negative consequence.
Sure it does, but that didn't stop the CTS-V from outhandling the M5 while weighing 250lbs more.

Improvements to suspension, tires and drivetrain can go a long way.
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So now in the current state the M5 is in it goes from 0-60 in 4,4 seconds..
Here in Belgium there is a tuner that offers an ecu upgrade to 698Hp and 697Nm and claim with removed speedlimiter it will do 309kmh or 192Mph.
Are these realistic numbers??
And if they are,what will be the 0-60 time then?
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Kenny: You have a tuner in Belgium offering an ECU tune for a car that doesn't even really 'exist' yet? You're talking about an ECU tune for the F10 M5, right?

I'd be EXTREMELY suspicious of anyone offering numbers on a car that they have never even seen before. Talk about irresponsible marketing.

And I highly doubt it'd be safe to slap on just a tune and achieve 140HP over factory. Not to mention your warranty would be immediately voided if anything went wrong with your car.

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