Originally Posted by Downunder M5
Pretty sure the E60 is in fact lighter than the E39 ? Could b wrong ?
E60 uses a lot of Al' components and panels
Here are the facts, so the new model is heavier like it often seems to be..
However 60kg's is not a big difference as power went up 107hp. 400->507
|E60: Unladen weight EU kg||1,855|
For the new M5 model, output engine power from factory must (not should) be at least 93hp more to be the "new M" monstre of 4-door street cars, ie. 600hp. 60hp is nothing. Whatever the torque is, the sound is very very poor at least on the video. It is almost exactly like Subaru.. The V10 configuration is far more an "M-style" engine than the new "turbo-tuned-chipped" 8 and no matter what the output is.
Well that is the real world, everything will be more and more boring all the time with new cars. Including the gear box. Nothin beats the real manual where the driver is in control and not the stupid computer. Track driving might be/is faster with these new gadgets but feeling is completely lost. So, no matter if it would have been a real automatic, or dual clutch robot. Maybe a normal automatic would be better. There is the torque converter etc to bring out even more torq to wheels from stop.
All this commercial hype just increases the price and does not bring more fun or power to rear wheels. When making a new M5 or especially M6 a high revving V10 or V12 it should be, even with turbos if necessary but I would actually prefer a belt driven charger like G-power etc.
BMW clearly increases to focus in producing the cars more for the "masses", not for the real enthusiasts.
About the looks, it looks like ordinary street "5" BMW, nothing special. I really hope that they can make the new M6 look special to differ from all these 4-door "taxis".
Though German cars all look pretty boring compared to Italian for example. Maybe Porsche is somewhat original but even they had to stick with the "retro" and not be able to create good looking "new design" cars. Best example of this problem is the disastrously horrible Panamera, where the tail has kind of chopped off. Maybe eyes get used to but I doubt. 911 is a beauty.