The new generation of the BMW 5 Series will be presented in November 2009. The M version is still a bit slow in coming - in the summer or autumn of 2010, it might be ready. Information about new business-understatement-there are hardly any cars. Still, Dr. Kay Segler, head of M GmbH, tells us: "We want to achieve fuel consumption reduction of 20 percent." On the north loop, we then proceed with more in a single piece: an anniversary M5. To questions about the car, we are cultivating silence - but we must go along, Claudia Hürtgen sits at the helm. The Special-M5 ballert off without traction interruption - apparently believes that a new version of the already deployed in the M3 seven-speed dual clutch transmission, now also the torque of an M5 engine. This finding is expressed by us Hürtgen uncommented. The motor rotates up to 9,000 rev / min high and feels after 600 hp. In the next few descendants in 1985 in Amsterdam featured stealth M5 we are already looking forward.
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Ein Nachfolger wird kommen
Die neue Generation des BMW 5er wird im November 2009 vorgestellt. Die M-Version lässt noch ein bisschen auf sich warten – im Sommer oder Herbst 2010 könnte es soweit sein. Informationen zum neuen Business-Understatement-Wagen gibt es kaum. Immerhin: Dr. Kay Segler, Chef der M GmbH, sagt uns: „Wir wollen Verbrauchsreduzierungen von 20 Prozent erreichen.“ Auf der Nordschleife fahren wir dann noch in einem Einzelstück mit: einem Jubiläums-M5. Auf Fragen zu dem Wagen ernten wir Schweigen – aber wir dürfen mitfahren, Claudia Hürtgen sitzt am Steuer. Der Sonder-M5 ballert ohne Zugkraft-Unterbrechung los – anscheinend hält eine neue Version des bereits im M3 eingesetzten Siebengang-Doppelkupplungsgetriebes jetzt auch die Drehmomente eines M5-Motors aus. Diese von uns geäußerte Feststellung lässt Hürtgen unkommentiert. Der Motor dreht bis zu 9.000 U/min hoch und fühlt sich nach 600 PS an. Auf den nächsten Nachfahren des 1985 verstohlen in Amsterda
if it is at 9,000 rpm rev, it is N/A. I would love a N/A V10 at 650 HP or so. We really need a car that can compete with the ZR1, and for it to be N/A and GT car would be so awesome. The people on this board would keep them sold out for the first year lol
why does bmw keep teasing us with all this mystery and double talk? first they say it could be N/A v10, then maybe turbo v10, possibly KERS, then likely turbo v8 sharing the drivetrain of the x5/6m... and now 9000rpm revving???
don't know about the rest of the board, but it seems like a tumultuous relationship that's on the brink of a divorce but the kids are keeping us together...
Am I reading this right, they are leaning toward a DCT like in the M3?? I hope not. Wouldn't it be destroyed with that much power? I would much rather see a newer SMG.
I agree the high reving rpms suggest NA, but to get that HP and still increase fuel consumption by 20%, wow. Better fuel and that much horsepower would usually have me thinking turbo, but 9000 rpm says otherwise, right?
I just wish someone would stop teasing and just confirm.
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My prediction: TTV8, 600 SAE hp, 8000 rpm redline, 450 lb/ft torque. Lower torque than X5/6 so the DCT can handle it. I could live with that but will miss the V10 for sure.
Am I reading this right, they are leaning toward a DCT like in the M3?? I hope not. Wouldn't it be destroyed with that much power? I would much rather see a newer SMG.
I agree the high reving rpms suggest NA, but to get that HP and still increase fuel consumption by 20%, wow. Better fuel and that much horsepower would usually have me thinking turbo, but 9000 rpm says otherwise, right?
I just wish someone would stop teasing and just confirm.
Cylinder deactivation comes to mind in order to increase fuel economy. With the recent TTs that BMW has released there is no way this engine can rev to 9000rpm and be turbo at the same time. I too would much prefer the kick in the ***** shifts of SMG to a DCT. I hope they keep the SMG, but as long as they put an NA 9000RPM V10 in it, i could care less if it were DCT or SMG.
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My prediction: TTV8, 600 SAE hp, 8000 rpm redline, 450 lb/ft torque. Lower torque than X5/6 so the DCT can handle it. I could live with that but will miss the V10 for sure.
According to the article you're wrong, also turbo and high revs don't really go together, you either have one or the other. Look at the X5 M V8TT and the 335 I6 TT both engines make peak power before 6000 rpms.
Sounds weird: are they given a testride in a "25 year celebration M5" with DKG and 9000 rpm limiter or do they just throw out made up facts that BMW M testdriver Claudia does not reply to?
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Can someone who is fluent in both German and English provide a better translation than what's stated above? Thanks in advance.
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BMW M to AutoBild: New BMW M5 F10 presented summer / autumn 2010, revs to 9000 rpm, 600+ HP DCT, -20% fuelconsumption
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