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Old 17th August 2009, 21:31   #1
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New F10 BMW M5 spyshots + inside information





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"It’s no longer a question of how much Power is necessary?
Now it’s all about making sure cars like the M5 will be relevant in the future. BMW are not concerned regarding the Power aspects of the M5 against it’s competitors. As per always BMW have understood that the base car has to be really really good before handing it over to the M Division. And that is where the new F10 excels it’s a drivers car.
And when you see it towards the end of the year you will see how BMW have delivered a car of brilliant proportion with it’s wide track and lower stance and then you say “This is going to be a great M car”
When we went back to discover what made people fall for the M5 one thing we found surprising was that it had an advantage over the competition(At first) V10. So there it is from a marketing point of view everybody had a V8 , BMW had a V10.
So they began a rebuild on the new twin-turbo V8 by adding two extra cylinders and a unique cylinder cut-off system. To incorporate our then F1 ideals similar to the V10 and SMG marketing with the E60, We decided to follow through on how would the M5 of the future look like how would it be powered? how would it store and regenerate energy?
And the KERS technology then being integrated for F1 was straight out of the “Efficient Dynamics” rule book , so we thought about how would KERS apply itself to a street car so we assigned both divisions @ M and F1 to work on the development of a system for a car with original development mules in stripped out M3 Coupes behind closed doors. And although the tech was temperamental on an F1 car , M division and Motorsport managed to perfect and apply the technology for road car use, even with an F1 style boost to which prototypes are running the system within BMW tech facilities and have begun real-world testing in F10 prototypes.
Although with marketing resorting to determine another approach now that BMW have dissolved it’s F1 activities. Labeling the new technology under “Efficient Dynamics” is one option another is labeling it under a new term specifically for the M Division"


Source: Spy Shots: BMW continues testing the future M5 (F10)
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Old 17th August 2009, 21:34   #2
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thanks, Gustav!

looks promising.

however, the thing that annoys me is the annoying front gap that can be seen on the F10 and the E60. why can't they give the car a decent ride height from the get-go?
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QUote from insider:

"It’s no longer a question of how much Power is necessary?
Now it’s all about making sure cars like the M5 will be relevant in the future. BMW are not concerned regarding the Power aspects of the M5 against it’s competitors. As per always BMW have understood that the base car has to be really really good before handing it over to the M Division. And that is where the new F10 excels it’s a drivers car.
And when you see it towards the end of the year you will see how BMW have delivered a car of brilliant proportion with it’s wide track and lower stance and then you say “This is going to be a great M car”
When we went back to discover what made people fall for the M5 one thing we found surprising was that it had an advantage over the competition(At first) V10. So there it is from a marketing point of view everybody had a V8 , BMW had a V10.
So they began a rebuild on the new twin-turbo V8 by adding two extra cylinders and a unique cylinder cut-off system. To incorporate our then F1 ideals similar to the V10 and SMG marketing with the E60, We decided to follow through on how would the M5 of the future look like how would it be powered? how would it store and regenerate energy?
And the KERS technology then being integrated for F1 was straight out of the “Efficient Dynamics” rule book , so we thought about how would KERS apply itself to a street car so we assigned both divisions @ M and F1 to work on the development of a system for a car with original development mules in stripped out M3 Coupes behind closed doors. And although the tech was temperamental on an F1 car , M division and Motorsport managed to perfect and apply the technology for road car use, even with an F1 style boost to which prototypes are running the system within BMW tech facilities and have begun real-world testing in F10 prototypes.
Although with marketing resorting to determine another approach now that BMW have dissolved it’s F1 activities. Labeling the new technology under “Efficient Dynamics” is one option another is labeling it under a new term specifically for the M Division"


Source: Spy Shots: BMW continues testing the future M5 (F10)

Does the above excerpt allude to twin turbo v10 with cylinder shut off????
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Does the above excerpt allude to twin turbo v10 will cylinder shut off????
That's what I understood from that! That would be great!
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Does the above excerpt allude to twin turbo v10 will cylinder shut off????

+1. I think it all but confirms TT V10.
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... And the KERS technology then being integrated for F1 was straight out of the “Efficient Dynamics” rule book , so we thought about how would KERS apply itself to a street car...
KERS is going to be a shock for BMW mechanics that cannot even correctly change oil



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Holy crap. When I had all but given up... TTV10, cylinder de-activation, and KERS??? Looks like another M5 is in my future. Only detail left is the tranny. I'm going Individual this time, and picking it up in the Motherland.
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Holy crap. When I had all but given up... TTV10, cylinder de-activation, and KERS??? Looks like another M5 is in my future. Only detail left is the tranny. I'm going Individual this time, and picking it up in the Motherland.
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Double Clutch is my guess!
This article looks promising. Thanks, Gustav, for posting. It would be logical to have DCT in the new M5, but the only thing possibly in the way would be too much horsepower. I still think it will be DCT, but if I could have it my way, it would be SMG. Btw, KERS looks coooool







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