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Preserving Alpina

StraightSixer — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:29:38 GMT

Seeing peoples constant headaches trying to keep their older Alpinas on the road, I was wondering if Alpina really cares about these older models. I know alpina is a very small company but I think it would be great if they set up some type of heritage center for these great Alpinasof the past. While I love all Alpinas, I feel that the older models have a more unique nature to them. I just feel for you guys trying to keep these gems on the road while maintaining the pieces that make them Alpina. Just my 2 cents : )

B12 5.0 #09430 for sale

beemerchris — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:24:58 GMT

As in the titel this car popped up for sale not sure if it was previously dealt with couldn't find it on here
Auto Trader UK - BMW 8 SERIES ALPINA B12 850i 2dr Auto

Does anyone know anything about this car, or has any thought's on it?

chris

'Lucie' the B8 Touring - Summer 2009 Adventures

Bernard — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:20:51 GMT

Dear All - I hope you enjoy this article.....??

I bought Lucie the B8 Touring (014) in June 2008. I was lucky to spot her on Pistonheads and fate seemed to be in play when I discovered that this very rare car was only 2 miles from my home in Sussex! Not so lucky was the water consumption issue, which was finally solved by replacing all the engine hoses, then the radiator and in the end skimming the heads and fitting new M5 head gaskets (nearly �4,000!). Since then the experience of owning a B8 has been great fun, particularly this summer, when I have showed the car at two BMW Car Club shows and done several European driving holidays. The shot below shows Lucie alongside my Porshe 944 Turbo Cabriolet (sadly now sold).

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First up was my annual trip to Le Mans 24 hour race in mid-June. This was the first time I had used a LHD car in 10 years of doing this journey. We completed 1200 miles at an average of 22mpg which considering we were carrying all our camping gear and doing some spirited driving seemed a good result and compared favourably with other cars I have had. The edge was taken off the journey by my co-driver who was unused to driving �foreign� cars and so misjudged where he was on the road. As a result, he managed to hit a kerb in a French village at speed, damaging the front and rear nearside wheels!

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We limped home at a reduced speed and his wallet became some �800 lighter once I had bought / refurbished the two wheels and tyres in the UK. But the unexpected bonus came because our campsite (Maison Blanche) was next to the track and after the race we were able to drive on and park by the Starting Grid! It was great to photgraph Lucie alongside some of my mates other cars, including a beautiful Lotus Elan Sprint DHC, Morris Minor Pickup, restored TR4 and Honda NSX.

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Following Le Mans, I decided to have Lucie� Inspection I service conducted at my local BMW dealer, Vines of Gatwick, a first-rate BMW dealer who also look after our E46 M3. The service was carried out by their Master Technician (top man) as no-one else had seen a B8 before! Many admiring comments were made and she passed with a clean bill of health, apart from some minor oil leaks (more of this later).

The end of June /early July saw my wife and me taking a 5 day trip into northern France with Lucie. We completed around 600 miles without any problems and achieved a more respectable 27mpg. The ferry journey was just great and on board we enjoyed a cracking breakfast in Langan's Restaurant (well recomended)

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During the trip we stopped at some of the WWI memorials including the famous Thiepval Memorial site on July 1^st (see below), the anniversary of the first day of the Battle of the Somme.

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Next up came the two visits to the BMW car club shows in August. Firstly at the Duxford Aerodrome on August 2^nd, where I was joined by fellow B8 Touring owner, Chris Tranter, en-route from Luxembourg to visiting his family near Birmingham.

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It was great to share stories with another owner, who has also gone through an expensive �entry fee� to becoming a B8 owner! Chris was able to help me realise that the bonnet of my car is not an original because the underfelt was still attached to it. Five minutes later and Chris had removed the felt and handed it to me! No wonder the head gaskets had failed, with all that heat being kept under it!!

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I saw Chris again 2 weeks later at the national BMW Festival at Gaydon the UK National Heritage Museum on August 16^th. We were parked next to each other in the Alpina section, which was very well represented amongst the other �more common� BMWs! After a successful and enjoyable day we headed home. Chris has since noticed that our B8�s were featured in the review of the BMW Festival at Gaydon �Total BMW�s October issue. The comment read �its rare to see the V8 powered Alpina E36 at all in the UK but we found these two B8 4.6�s parked up next to each other�. It made owning such a car a real privilege.

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Then in early September, my wife, daughter and I drove down to Servoz, near Chamonix in the French Alps. A fabulous journey there of some 550 miles in one day, followed by a week of touring some of the most spectacular scenery France has to offer. Highly recommended, particularly in the off-season when the snow is not there.

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On the return leg we avoided the Autoroute and drove through Geneva, over the Jura Mountain range and on to Reims where we stayed overnight. Back home in the UK we had covered over 1,400 miles without any problems and at 28mpg.

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My daughter now says she prefers being a passenger in the Alpina to the M3! Praise indeed.

So what next? Well there is a minor oil leak, which appears to be the power steering hoses so these will be replaced in December and then the bonnet should get a re-spray as it has some strange splits in the paintwork. I may also go for this oil cooler modification cleverly developed by some of the forum guys, when funds allow.

Other than that Lucie just keeps on rolling and in that beautifully understated way that Alpinas are famous for. I must admit to having become smitten by the Alpina philosophy and someday I may even buy a D3 Touring if my job means doing a lot more driving than at present. Who knows? Good luck to all you other B8ers out there.

Regards Berni Cashin

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Alpina Racecalendar 2010: 2010 examples

Gustav — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:25:42 GMT

Artikelnummer 88 04 259
Preis 29,90 Euro inkl. MwSt. (zzgl. 5 Euro Versand)

Bestellung telefonisch unter +49 (0)8241-5005-0
oder per Mail an: B6GT3@alpina.de

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Member PeterB3 BMW Alpina B3 BiTurbo Coupe with bicolour interiour

Gustav — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:40:01 GMT

:trophy_bronze:

Actual car displayed n the carsalon :trophy_bronze: Must be the B3 BiTurbo in the background here:

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No words

hrto777 — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:09:04 GMT

I thought that the Nazca exists only as a concept car but... It's a real car Manufactured ,sold ,owned ,used by Hassanal Bolkiah ,Sultan of Brunei And powered by alpina...:wow:

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My new Alpina C1 2.5

hjonkman — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:26:22 GMT

Just to let you know I added 1 car to the stable: Alpina C1 2.5

Unfortunately I don't have better pics right now, but I can tell you the car is in quite a good condition and drives superb! Engine feels strong at all revs and sounds like an M20 should mmmmmm

Even though I normally like E30's better with chrome bumpers and window frames, I really think this one is very cool in shadowline!

Thanks for looking!

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Alpina wheelset with tyres for sale

sterb — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:13:37 GMT

Just posted this in the for sale section if anyone is interested...

http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/sal...9-5j-17in.html

Cheers, sterb

Alpina B10 BiTurbo #360 back on the road

Tomba — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:58:10 GMT

Alpina B10 BiTurbo #360 Back on the road

Since this board isn�t that active lately I shall post my latest experience with BT #360. On a regular Sunday afternoon CJ & I were testing my new equipment to log AFR, boost pressure, fuel pressure and many other signals. I wanted to see how �healthy� the BT was and on what kind of AFR the engine was running. The Saturday before I installed al equipment and the car was ready for some runs.

As I mentioned, Sunday we drove to the highway to make some full load runs. Nothing weird came up, only the engine ran a bit to lean according to my experiences. Adjusting the full load mixture during runs made this much better.
After we drove back to home CJ picked up his E30 325i and I went back to the garage with the BT to work on the log files. As I drove back and accelerated with 60-70% throttle /4000rpm the engine sounded like it was in the rev limiter�. Thank god I was near the garage. No weird noises, or other remarkable things could be seen/heared. I checked all spark plugs and #3 was wet� Since it was Sunday I wanted to go further on Monday evening. Well Monday evening was a disaster day, when I removed the valve cover this could be seen:

Both rocker arms of cylinder #3 were broken of. As I inspected the valve clearances of the rest nothing weird came up. Only a small tear in inlet rocker arm #6. Since the ignition sequence is 1-5-3-6*-2-4 I suspect a to high rpm most likely caused by a miss shift.

Than the rebuilt could begin, some enjoying pics or you�

Cilinderhead assembled, new: rocker arms, rockerarm shafts, exhaust valve, valve guider seals, ...

As the sump gasket was leaking, it was a good uppertunidy to replace the gasket to with the gaskets from the front timing cover. As Wout (SebringNL) says to S38 engines, it can be the same to B7/5 engines... A domino effect!

Worn chain guiders and sprockets

Most surprising was the crankshaft sprocket, 2 tooths were missing!

Of course these parts were replaced with original BMW parts (chain crankshaft-camshaft, chain crankshaft-oil pump, spanner for camshaft and oil pump, guider for camshaft and all sprockets)

Everything together....

Since the car was almost 1,5 month on a bridge it was time to polish it

According to CJ the engines runs more quiet than before, hope it will give some more bhp to :2:.

So Mr.CJ do you pick these tomorrow? >

Ciao!!!

Album:
The Unofficial BMW M5 Messageboard (m5board.com) - Tomba's Album: BiTurbo repairance

E46 B3 or E36 B8?

Jagger — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:23:38 GMT

Well, like the title says: What would you go for?

They are both great cars, I know, but I just can't decide what to go for.

Anybody here that's got experience from both?

My B10 - Some pictures

AlpinaJes — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:11:33 GMT

Hello

Finally took some pictures with my Camera - Not the mobile phone

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BMW Alpina B7 Turbo Coup� -84. #22

Erneland — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:27:31 GMT

It has arrived in Sweden and all the papers are done and dusted!
I sold my E28 B7 Turbo and regret it so much that I started to look for another one. Since I didn't like the ones on mobile.de I looked elsewere. However, approximatley one week after the E28 left my garage I saw a new add with very little information on mobile. No pictures but it stated that there was only 3 owners and with full history and only 114750 km left behind! The only difference from my other B7 was the fact that it was a coup�. It had the same color scheme and gold striping. It actually left Alpina the month after my E28! ;)

A friend that speaks german called the owner and after a 2 hour phone call it was clear to me that this car could indeed be a very nice one!:M5thumbs:.

I bought the car unseen! This is what arrived one week later.

I was quite happy with the car. Now I will repaint the front spoiler and thats it! =) It's in really good condition. I guess my Ford GT40 dream has to wait a day or two ;-)

Best Regards,

Michael
Sweden/Norway

Member B10BRW BMW Alpina Roadster S and his B10 V8

Gustav — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:40:44 GMT

Member B10BRW BMW Alpina Roadster S and also his Alpina B10 V8 in Alpina Blue

Great secondary car :thumbsup:

Touring Germany in a B12 5.7

Gerg — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:53:56 GMT

I had a great one week trip around Germany. We did a lot of driving. Landed in Berlin last Wednesday and drove to Munich the same day. The next night we stayed at Nurmburg, then Dusseldorf, then a little town below Bremerhaven(SP), then Hamburg, then the last night back Berlin.

We were driven around in this:

We hit 280 kph but it only got this:

It was very odd for us Americans being able to drink while passengers. The driver never drank.
I'm not in this picture

Our host had some interesting cars.
B6 2.8 runs perfect just needs a re-spray.

Hartge H6

Nice 850CSI

E32 750i touring ready for restoration:

How about an e28 with a modified Schnitzer S7 engine:

Another e31 B12

And the last B9 produced and beautiful:

It was a great trip and Germany is a beautiful country.

Greg

Alpina B10 Biturbo for sale #13

JetBoy — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:15:36 GMT

Hi guys,

Here it is, very early model. For sale in southern Spain.

Vendo o cambio alpina b10 biturbo 400cv (fotos) - BMW FAQ Club

For what sellers says it is modified to 400 hp:

- Forged wastegate valve (USA)
- More turbo pressure (standard is 0,8 + 1, if I'm wrong)

He also mentions Alpina electric suspension ??? Is this the little 2 position button some 750i E32 had at that time, near the ASC button?

Best regards.

For sale:1975 BMW 2002 Alpina A4s

GaAlpinaowner — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:17:20 GMT

BMW : 2002:eBay Motors (item 160375631780 end time Nov-12-09 04:13:52 PST)

Looking for vintage Alpina racing wheels

djmink — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:57:16 GMT

Looking for two piece wheels as used on the Alpina race cars. Five lug to fit the CS coupe, preferably in 15". Centers or complete wheels. Please pm me if you have a set for sale.

E38 B12 service items

Bryn — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:28:45 GMT

Evening all,

I need to service my B12 6.0 and also a B12 5.7 that I have in stock at the moment.

Can anyone tell me if the oil/air/fuel filters are 750i items or Alpina specific? Also what spark plugs are recommended?

Many thanks in advance,
Bryn.

My b10 bi-turbo is for sale

m5 killer — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:53:59 GMT

selling my bt anybody who is interested please pm me for more details

Crack in my Alpina

Pip — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:19:33 GMT

No, not drugs but a hairline crack in my 18" wheel. So my question is can it be repaired. Someone at the tyre centre suggested bathroom sealant as a possible cure although I am not sure it will last with the pressure/movement. The crack is right at the top of the vein near the exterior edge where it joins the circular part of the wheel.

Any resolution most welcome otherwise it will be a new wheel.

Pip

Alpina Factory Tour - Protocol

jrcalvin — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:23:04 GMT

I am going to be in Frankfurt next week and have considered traveling down to Munich and Buchloe to check out the Alpina Factory. A few basic questions;

1) Does one need to call Alpina in Advance for a factory tour?

2) What does the tour consist of? How long?

3) Maybe Alpina does not bother with USA Alpina owners who own old Alpinas like my e24 B10 3.5 as we may not in the market in a new for a new Alpina. Even though the newer B7 limosine is available in the USA I am not in the market for that Alpina.

4) Maybe I would only be interested in seeing an on-going resatoration of an older Alpina model by the factory?

5) I would probably try to be at the Alpina factory Monday morning Nov 16, 2009.

But maybe there are better things to do in Germany as a first time visitor than look at automobiles?

john.

O2 Sensor Mystery (B10 V8 4.6)

B10-bomber — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:02:24 GMT

Hi Guys,
I'm new to the forum and was wondering if any of you had experienced or heard of this unusual running problem I'm having.
My car is a 2002 Alpina B10 V8 4.6. When it drops from choke/fast idle to normal idle, it should run at approx 450/500rpm. On the majority of start-ups however, the revs drop to the low marker line on the tachometer (which must only be 250rpm at most) and it starts to misfire.
The rpm's do the same when the car has been on a long journey or on the motorway for 15 miles or so - as soon as you come to rest, the engine is almost stalling.
The ultra-low idle gives a nasty side-effect too when rolling to a stop: the gearbox heavily slams from 3rd when changing down to 2nd. I presume this is down to the lower hydraulic pressure in the gearbox caused by the low revs??
Anyway, a good local mechanic/auto electrician hooked my car up to his top-end Bosch diagnostics, and it showed BOTH O2 sensors were offline when the revs were low (however it DIDNT throw up a fault code or engine management light!!). He reset the ECU parameters and they BOTH came back online together and the car idled perfect (~500rpm). A few moments later they BOTH went offline again (still no fault codes) and the rough low idle came back. We monitored the O2 sensors and it showed both pre-cat sensors going on and offline together resulting in good or bad idle depending whether they were working or not. So I'm sure you can understand that I'm doubtful its the sensors at fault - surely it would be one or the other going offline if a sensor was bad.
So there you have it - can anyone shed some light on this problem that mystifies everyone I ask about it? Even BMW were vague about what it could be (arent they always....)
Thanks in advance for any contributions
-Ben

Alpina B6 S vs BMW M3 Convertible

Gustav — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:19:41 GMT

RAce top down and driver of the Alpina is a chic :grinyes:

2008 alpina b3 body parts

blackhse — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:36:59 GMT

hello to all, is there a place where i could find alpina body parts and order them online?
parts needed for a 2008 left hand drive alpina b3 biturbo coupe.

parts needed:
2008 alpina front bumper
drivers side front side panel

i would prefer used parts to minimize cost. thank you

Very very nice F01 B7BT for sale

hrto777 — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:15:57 GMT

No comment lovelove

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Bought my first Alpina :) and lovin it

aberenson — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:35:37 GMT

I just bought my first Alpina, and this is by far the best car I have ever driven. I've owned many BMW's M3(few), M5 e39(second favorite), M5 e60(least favorite) and couple 550's, great cars. I was lucky that one of my friends owns a dealership and was able to buy it at a whole sale price, and the car is worth every penny. I showed it to my friends today who has a CLS63, and after he drove it, he said it was also one of the best cars , very refined and so much power, much better feeling that his cls and it looks "bad". My car is 2007 black on black, 12k mi, i am not sure what are available options, but i know the only thing i dont have is night vision and dvd entertainment. I have couple question hopefully you guys can answer, since i dont have manuals:
1. I have a yellow car displayed on above my navigation/idrive screen, what is it?
2. I used to have 2007 550, and my i-drive(nav) was different with 4 directions, and this one has 8, which is a pain in the ***[IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Alex/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image001.gif[/IMG]. Can this be changed with a software update?
3. Are there any critical software updates/recalls that I should be aware off for the car?
4. I have some fan noise in or near my glove compartment, is this normal, its not very loud only noticed when turned off the car, and it ran for few more seconds.

Thanks in advance.

Alex

Alpina VS Brabus

Hasan Shaikh — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:37:06 GMT

Hello Everyone

I was just wondering how all the Alpina fans would compare Alpina against the latest that Brabus has to offer.

Their V12 engines with 750 PS and 1350 NMs of torque can give the big boys like Pagani and Koenigsegg a run for their money.

Will Alpina offer something that can compete with the Brabus monsters?

What are your thoughts?

Member Dearny BMW ALPINA B10 V8S ALPINA Blue with BMW M5 mirrors

Gustav — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:38:54 GMT

:trophy_bronze:

Pierburg Direct?

Mike323i — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:40:50 GMT

I believe I know the answer to this already, but is there any way or any source for individual Pierburg fuel injection parts? I seem to remember that the official answer when I got my Pierburg DL unit rebuilt was that Pierburg could not be contacted nor individual parts purchased, you were forced to go through Alpina who has only one option - rebuild.

My fuel pressure regulator has developed a leak. I have spares and have dissambled it and found a damaged diaphragm. If I could source a new diaphragm, I could reassemble and be on my way. I do not wish to wait months and spend thousands to send to Alpina for "a full rebuild".

Any assistance or leads appreciated.

Also, as it is a simple diaphragm, any thoughts or leads on material to make my own would also be appreciated.

Looking for advice on new purchase, e36 M3 or Alpina b3 3.2?

adamm — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:22:37 GMT

Hi all,

I have just sold my pristine e34 M5 Touring. I am looking for a replacement. I am looking at an e36 M3 but would also consider a B3 3.2.

As far as I could gather info on the differences between the two contenders, the B3 is supposed to be more refined and a better all around package. I would use the car as a daily driver, I have a Porsche 968 CS M030 and an Aprilia RSV Factory for sporting purposes.

How is it with reliability? The M3 is pretty renowned for its bulletproof nature (except water pump issues).

I suppose B3's mpg is also better than the M3's, but certainly lightyears better than the e34 M5 :).

Should I be concerned about high mileage (200 000 km) when full service history and invoices are at hand?

Are there any issues, I should be aware of?

Any opinions and recommendations are welcome.

thanks
adam

ALPINA B6S GT3 invlolved in crash with Porsche 911 GT3 at Zolder

Gustav — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:11:41 GMT

New Member B6

builtwrightbmw — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:34:59 GMT

I just joined today and wanted to introduce myself. My Name is Andy Gardner and I am from Asheville,it I recently purchased a 1980 Alpina B6 2.8 #201 from southern California. There were 2 e21 Alpina's in my town when I was in high school and I fell in love. I have been looking for this car for about 14 years now and finally found it. It was imported in 1985 and has been in southern California ever since.

The former owner of the car purchased it in 1985 when was when it was imported into the USA. I have the original import documents along with reciepts dating into the eighties. This car is currently a numbers matching car however the engine is in need of a total rebuild. Another thing about the car is that it isn't the original color which was Polaris. I believe that the car was repainted prior to entering the USA because all the service records indicate that the car was black. Fortunately the paint job is very thorough and you can only tell by a few scratches and by looking under the front or rear dashes.

I joined this forum because I feel that it is probably the most knowledgeable group of people regarding these specific vehicles. My car isn't perfect but maybe with some good advice from you I will be able to get it as close as possible.

You can find the picture's of it here, This is how I received it. Don't worry the fog lights are going to come off and I have already acquired an original steering wheel and shift knob to put into the car.

Alpina B6 Arrival pictures by builtwrightbmw - Photobucket

Alpina B7S for sale in Ireland

1000 km — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:40:57 GMT

Does anyone know this car?

Pkw-Inserat: Detailansicht

ALPINA seat fabric

carmel — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 04:37:33 GMT

I am looking for the ALPINA seat fabric that was used on the Scheel seats.
I need enough to cover the rear seat and 2 driver seats.

The Material I am in need of is the same in this Photo.

hibernation / Winterschlaf

schlumpf-nu — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 14:17:27 GMT

Hay,

today my babies were prepared for long hibernation.
The atmospheric pressure in the tyre raised, the petrol tanks filled, the battery preservation in wedged and the sleeping suit drawn.

I wish my babies sweet dreams, from empty highways, winding country roads and sunny days.

The next year we will take the runway under the wheels again and what show to the modern cars an old ALPINA everything on it has.

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Nice B6 2.8 (E21) for sale in Switzerland

Orjan — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:12:03 GMT

The ad

Could be worth checking out (for those of you with �� :D )

Bi Turbo Seat Controls

dchyde — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:38:57 GMT

Only one of my 6 control switches seems to be working between the two front seats. Has anyone had the same experience and fix it? Not sure if the switches need to be replaced or its something else like the motors.

BMW Alpina B7 now in Long Wheelsbase LWB at Tokyo Auto Salon

Gustav — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:12:37 GMT

Tokyo 2009 Alpina B7 Long Wheelbase — Autoblog