New M Engine Info

[greggb]

I live in South Africa and have a very good friend who is high up in BMW SA.
He just went overseas to Germany with a group of the "Big guys" from BMW SA..
He had some NICE things to say when he got back..
He said the BMW engineers are "gona give Merc something to think about for a long time!!" :-)

Seems the M Division had been very busy of late.. desinging enigines!
He also said dont be surprised when you see the REAL M5 performance stats.. They are going to be better than stated at the moment.. some marketing games aret taking place!!

Then the forthcoming M6 powerplant..
The M Division HAS built a 5.5l V10, producing 420 kW and 565 N.m..
What BMW has not yet decided is if this will power the M6 or M6 CSL. They are unsure if they are going to build a CSL version, and so if they DO build a CSL, the M6 will be fitted with the current 387 kW and 520 N.m M5 engine and the M6 CSL with the 5.5l engine.. and if NO CSL version then the 420 kW engine will finds its way into the M6, giving it a 0-100 kph of around 4.2.

They have also been developing a 6.0l V10 for a future Supercar..
It will have a MAMMOTH 464 kW and 650 N.m.. No matter what car this powerplant drives it will surely pull a sub-3.5 sec 0-100 Kph. But for this same "supercar" they have also been experimenting with a Twin-Turbocharged version of the E60 M5 engine.. apparently producing "around" 495 kW!!!!!
Crazy MPower on the way! When they build the "supercar" they WANT it to be the fastest car on earth!

Then for the forthcoming M3/M4 the M Division is devloping a high-reving 4.0l V8 making around 330 kW and 400 N.m redlining around 9000 Rpm.

The Z4 M is also DEFINATLEY on the cards.. They are experimenting with 2 options.. dropping the M3 CSL engine and SMG box in, or dropping the X5 4.8is' engine into the engine bay. The M Coupe will be replaced with the Z5 Coupe, powered also by either the M3 CSL engine or a newly developed Twin-Turbocharged version of the new Valvetronic 330i 3.0l engine. The non-turbo version will now make 185 kW and the turochrged M version 295 kW.
Although BMW are reluctant to use the "turbo" engines because they want to stay true to their normally aspirated engines, but this will probably be the only "turbo" engine that BMW offer and ONLY on this model if they opt to use it.

He had no engine info of the M1/M2.. altough versions are already being tested.

Hope you all find this info useful!!

[max_m5]

thx!!!

when can we expect the real performance stats (0-100km/h ...) ???

[Gustav]

greggb, thank you very much for this information. Yes, what I have heard has the production costs for the M5 engine gone through the roof at BMW M, but that is good, it will be a vey very nice engine! BMW M must sell the BMW M5 in alot of exampleds though to cover the expenses. With the success of the E39 M5 I think it will not be a problem.

The first M5 delivered to Sweden will come in November.

max_m5, the stats are already been released. It will be interesting to see a independent test of it, most notably Sport Auto Nürburgring test and maybe some quarter mile figures as well. Maybe it also can be revenge at the Nardo rop speed track this time for BMW M

[max_m5]

dear gustav,

i only heard them saying "under 5 secs... under 15 secs..." did they tell exact performance stats?

on saturday, my whole family went to the dealer to sign the contract. they will get our e39 m5 + 65000€ and we get the new m5 with navi prof, TV, standard leather etc... but we can't choose the colour yet. does anybody know the name for that dark grey colour like the concept m5 had?

[Alpha43]

Originally Posted by greggb

I live in South Africa and have a very good friend who is high up in BMW SA.
He just went overseas to Germany with a group of the "Big guys" from BMW SA..
He had some NICE things to say when he got back..
He said the BMW engineers are "gona give Merc something to think about for a long time!!" :-)

Seems the M Division had been very busy of late.. desinging enigines!
He also said dont be surprised when you see the REAL M5 performance stats.. They are going to be better than stated at the moment.. some marketing games aret taking place!!

Then the forthcoming M6 powerplant..
The M Division HAS built a 5.5l V10, producing 420 kW and 565 N.m..
What BMW has not yet decided is if this will power the M6 or M6 CSL. They are unsure if they are going to build a CSL version, and so if they DO build a CSL, the M6 will be fitted with the current 387 kW and 520 N.m M5 engine and the M6 CSL with the 5.5l engine.. and if NO CSL version then the 420 kW engine will finds its way into the M6, giving it a 0-100 kph of around 4.2.

They have also been developing a 6.0l V10 for a future Supercar..
It will have a MAMMOTH 464 kW and 650 N.m.. No matter what car this powerplant drives it will surely pull a sub-3.5 sec 0-100 Kph. But for this same "supercar" they have also been experimenting with a Twin-Turbocharged version of the E60 M5 engine.. apparently producing "around" 495 kW!!!!!
Crazy MPower on the way! When they build the "supercar" they WANT it to be the fastest car on earth!

Then for the forthcoming M3/M4 the M Division is devloping a high-reving 4.0l V8 making around 330 kW and 400 N.m redlining around 9000 Rpm.

The Z4 M is also DEFINATLEY on the cards.. They are experimenting with 2 options.. dropping the M3 CSL engine and SMG box in, or dropping the X5 4.8is' engine into the engine bay. The M Coupe will be replaced with the Z5 Coupe, powered also by either the M3 CSL engine or a newly developed Twin-Turbocharged version of the new Valvetronic 330i 3.0l engine. The non-turbo version will now make 185 kW and the turochrged M version 295 kW.
Although BMW are reluctant to use the "turbo" engines because they want to stay true to their normally aspirated engines, but this will probably be the only "turbo" engine that BMW offer and ONLY on this model if they opt to use it.

He had no engine info of the M1/M2.. altough versions are already being tested.

Hope you all find this info useful!!

Sorry for the inconvience but what are numbers in hp for all those engines?

[bernhtp]

Originally Posted by Alpha43

Sorry for the inconvience but what are numbers in hp for all those engines?

Click on this for an online conversion calculator.

Tom

[vndkshn]

Originally Posted by max_m5

. does anybody know the name for that dark grey colour like the concept m5 had?

Shadow Chrome, and it won't be offered.

greggb, awesome info, wonder what time will show about some of the stuff they are working on.

[Alpha43]

Those are some great engines! And with the whole "real" stats of the m5, from the start I knew that 0-60 in 4.7 was not right, I mean the E39 m5 hit 0-60 in 4.8, so something had to be wrong...Cant wait for futher info!~Alpha~

[maq]

I'm quite excited about the 4.0L 9000rpm V8. That's Ferrari territory

[dNA3D]

I definitely wouldn't mind a twin-turboed engine now that BMW has the multi-turbo setup, just like the one on the 535d.