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Old 4th July 2012, 20:17   #1
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CIC Retrofit Part #s

Gents- We have a lot of great information on the CIC retrofit, thanks in large part to Allan (Zerocks1) and Remi (Mini74). I've read the threads many times as I've been on the fence about taking on this great upgrade. I'm finally pulling the trigger and making the purchase of the group by sponsored by Bimmerretrofit. For the sake of everyone that wants to take the leap, I'd like to use this thread to consolidate all the part numbers for the associated replacement parts. I know that this info has been scattered in the associated threads but its very challenging to find when your looking for it! Part number requests seem to be one of the most frequent questions of everyone that takes on this project- myself included.

For those of you trail blazers that may have any part number info on trim, connectors, LCI climate control, etc that can be consolidated here please share!

Have a great 4th of July!

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Good thread idea - one thing I haven't been able to find is the part number for the US spec CIC.
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Hello Mike, and others.

I'll start this off. First, obtaining the parts is probably the most difficult part of a DIY to upgrade the CCC module to a CIC module. If it were as simple as listing part numbers for all the items, I would do so right now. So for those of you that are thinking about this and have, or have not read the many threads on parts required, FSC codes, EU vs. US, and the final task; coding, let's start with a brief tutorial on the CIC itself and the COMBOX addition.

The CIC, (Car Infotainment Computer), which is the module behind the radio controls, was never intended to be legitimately upgraded in pre CIC MY's. Those models contain a CCC module (two disk slots). So it's necessary to fool the car thinking it is really a newer model year during various coding processes, but can be done.

There are a few part numbers for CIC units. the US version is in the link below. The EU version is in the picture. That's the one I have. What's the difference? Really, there isn't any. Both are adaptable to US cars via coding processes. So assuming you could get either part, it is necessary to insert what's known as FSC codes. These codes are specific to your VIN and can be purchased from BMW. (They are called enabling codes). You can see them in the second link. In order to insert these codes a rather rigorous procedure is required, that can be done DIY, but requires a special cable.

The alternatives for this are twofold. Buy a CIC from a reputable seller who will insert the FSC code for you on a bench setup using your VIN (That's the OEM way), or buy a CIC with what's known as an emulator (The emulator basically emulates an FSC code that is not specific to your VIN, nor required to be). That's the non OEM method.

I won't list the vendors who sell both, they are well known around various boards. My setup is the OEM method, and honestly either method will work.

Obtaining the CIC via BMW dealers and our well known advertisers is difficult, as you will find out. Dealers and the usual parts sellers will not list these part numbers on their sites as being valid numbers. I'm not sure the reason why other than possible legal implications or BMW restrictions. Either way, you will find it difficult obtaining these through BMW channels.

On to the COMBOX, which is a module that replaces an existing module (TCU/MULF) located behind the rear seat. The features allow BT music transfer, Album Art display, and a variety of other features. My 2c suggests if you are going to upgrade to a CIC, the COMBOX is a must. There are two versions; COMBOX Media (Media, as in music, BT, phone) and COMBOX Telematic/Media (Media plus all the features you now enjoy with BMW assist, service call initiation, etc. Basically functions that use a call out process including SOS). You will give these up with the COMBOX Media only version. I have the COMBOX Media version. Rarely have I ever used the SOS, service call , etc functions. And programming the Telematic/Media version is not easy.

So, not to turn anyone off, it is my suggestion to purchase a CIC at a minimum from one of the dealers you have probably read about in threads here and elsewhere.

Let's stop with these two parts for now. The rest are wiring harnesses, cables, etc, and are the easy parts to obtain, and we can list those numbers later.

- CIC EU version 65129222874 (you won't find this number in realoem.com)
- CIC US version (see link #1)
- COMBOX Media 84109257160
- FSC Codes (see link #2)

Let's make sure everyone is clear on these two items before we press on.

US ver CIC:
RealOEM.com * BMW E63 M6 Car Infotainment computer

FSC Codes:
RealOEM.com * BMW E63 M6 Enable code, update for Professional GPS
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Allan- thanks for the great intro. I made the assumption that anyone contemplating this upgrade has followed the various threads, but for those that have not your post is a great intro. With the couple of seeming very helpful and competent dealers whom many have worked with and purchased the bulk of the CIC hardware, I would find it hard for anyone to want to try to completely source everything on their own. My goal for this thread is to include as many of the ancillary part numbers that people continue to ask about, such as:

-various trim (most inquieres have been for the CF trim)
-the interior center console with USB & Aux fitment
-LCI Climate Control
-LCI Climate Control Knobs (instead of replacing the Climate Control Unit).

I assumed the major components would be bought as a kit as sold by the dealers. I've put my deposit down for the group buy and am anxious to get started with the upgrade!!

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There are a few part numbers for CIC units. the US version is in the link below. The EU version is in the picture. That's the one I have. What's the difference? Really, there isn't any. Both are adaptable to US cars via coding processes. So assuming you could get either part, it is necessary to insert what's known as FSC codes. These codes are specific to your VIN and can be purchased from BMW. (They are called enabling codes). You can see them in the second link. In order to insert these codes a rather rigorous procedure is required, that can be done DIY, but requires a special cable.
Actually, there are two major differences that I'm aware of -

1) the US version has HD radio. You will not get HD radio with the non US spec CIC;
2) the US version sacrifices two memory buttons for an AM/FM button and a MODE button.

Personally, I'd prefer the two additional memory buttons, but no HD radio is a deal breaker.
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Allan- thanks for the great intro. I made the assumption that anyone contemplating this upgrade has followed the various threads, but for those that have not your post is a great intro. With the couple of seeming very helpful and competent dealers whom many have worked with and purchased the bulk of the CIC hardware, I would find it hard for anyone to want to try to completely source everything on their own. My goal for this thread is to include as many of the ancillary part numbers that people continue to ask about, such as:

-various trim (most inquieres have been for the CF trim)
-the interior center console with USB & Aux fitment
-LCI Climate Control
-LCI Climate Control Knobs (instead of replacing the Climate Control Unit).

I assumed the major components would be bought as a kit as sold by the dealers. I've put my deposit down for the group buy and am anxious to get started with the upgrade!!
Have to dig up my receipts and packages. I should have most, if not all of these. Need a few days....
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Have to dig up my receipts and packages. I should have most, if not all of these. Need a few days....
You can't be the only one!
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I found this as a starter. I don't recall where I got this, but I just reconciled these part numbers against the packages I did keep

2004-2007 Pre-LCI owners that are keeping their current idrive controller. (I did. I have a Schnitzer cover which I like better than the new controller; personal preference)

CCC Owners: (That's the majority of us here in the US)

61119185171 CIC HD Screen cable (Cable from CIC module to new HD screen)
61319167196 USB Port (Goes in glovebox; used to d/l music directly to CIC HDD)
61129196805 USB Port cable
51456976361 CIC Center trim (not CF)
61136954526 CID CAN/power connector

Pre-LCI owners will may wish to change the AC console to an LCI one so there won't be any gaps in between the switches. (Optional)

For those who want to use the new idrive controller you will have to remove the armrest, cut around and remove your current idrive controller module.
New idrive contoller trim and bracket P/N 51169155970, 51169155987 that may have to be sourced from Europe. May not be order-able from a US dealer
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Parts required for 6NR upgrade for LEFT HAND drive vehicles- P/N 51169131177 [Base, Cubby Center Console] & P/N 51166951511 [Cable Cover Runway]- although cable cover runway may not be required.

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Connection wire for USB/HUB L= 3550MM 1 61119137935
Connection wire for USB/HUB L=2210MM 1 61119202749
Universal socket housing uncoded 6 POL. MQS 1 61136954554
FBAS lead L= 1320MM 1 61119200890
BUSHING CONTACT 0,2- 0,5MM² 10 61130005197
Pin-contact 0,2- 0,5MM² 10 61130005198
Base plate 1 84109243209
Snap-in adapter for media IPHONE 4/4S 1 84212218390
USB/AUX-IN port, selectable 1 84109237654
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