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Old 15th June 2011, 00:38   #371
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error at step 43 - clicking Back (F6)

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Make: 2008 LCI E63.
Cable: K+DCAN USB cable

I'm having a problem with the procedure - I have got up to step 43 where I can see my VIN details but clicking Back (F6) results in the attached error - has anyone seen this please?

Unfortunately, I can't move on to additional steps so am stuck at the moment.

Happy to share any log data to pinpoint what the problem could be.

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menacez, if you reference these specific posts in throughout this thread, one of them may solve the fault you posted. Likely the latter posts, but let's cover all bases
Posts: 221,223,227,231 241,242 271,274 290-295, 299

Having a blank PSW_FSW.TRC and a blank PSW_FSW.MAN file in your work folder may be it. (Latter posts)

Also, although you have an E63; being its a 635, may not have the same CAS and LMA modules (the main backup modules in addition to their individual functions), that we do in our M6 versions. I bring this up as during my early work, the profiles (.PFL files in NCS/PFL folder) that are loaded when you open NCS, Load Profile, Select profile, do not work on 7xx, 5xx and did not work on many M5's (E60's). I'm not sure why, but the biggest hurdle I had early on was the profile being incompatible with the M6 model. I had to create a unique .PFL file that ultimately worked. I modified and tested the many 'profiles' that have been uploaded throughout this thread. So I know these work

I bring this up in case all other options fail you from the referenced posts, you may need to create your own profile specific to the 635. That process is outlined in post #1 if memory serves. But try the changes in the posts noted. It may work.

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Thanks zerocks1. So I got past this error by removing the contents of the TRC and MAN file. Then continued to follow the guide and successfully got to step 79 - "coding ended". (modified the BC_DIGITAL_V)

But I dont see whats described in Step 81 (V= 0 mph) so can't tell if the change has been applied.

Would this be caused by pin 8 or wouldn't it get this far if pin 8 was the prob?

Not sure if it helps but:
- at step 70, I get a diff CBD name but clicking on OK displays the same screenshots in the PDF DIY doc.
- Also followed previous post recommendations and updated all files to MY 2010.

Thanks for any pointers.


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menacez, if you reference these specific posts in throughout this thread, one of them may solve the fault you posted. Likely the latter posts, but let's cover all bases
Posts: 221,223,227,231 241,242 271,274 290-295, 299

Having a blank PSW_FSW.TRC and a blank PSW_FSW.MAN file in your work folder may be it. (Latter posts)

Also, although you have an E63; being its a 635, may not have the same CAS and LMA modules (the main backup modules in addition to their individual functions), that we do in our M6 versions. I bring this up as during my early work, the profiles (.PFL files in NCS/PFL folder) that are loaded when you open NCS, Load Profile, Select profile, do not work on 7xx, 5xx and did not work on many M5's (E60's). I'm not sure why, but the biggest hurdle I had early on was the profile being incompatible with the M6 model. I had to create a unique .PFL file that ultimately worked. I modified and tested the many 'profiles' that have been uploaded throughout this thread. So I know these work

I bring this up in case all other options fail you from the referenced posts, you may need to create your own profile specific to the 635. That process is outlined in post #1 if memory serves. But try the changes in the posts noted. It may work.

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menacez, if you've gotten as far as being able to read modules, and write to modules, even though it appears the code didn't take, congratulations. Pin 7-8 may actually be necessary on the 635, so I would not de solder or remove the pin. Usually when the write function appears to write, but doesn't stick, it's likely the .PFL file in NCS

There is a box in the profile you are using that is likely unchecked, when it needs to be checked and saved. Reference posts #185 and #188 (d/l's are there). There are 2 working .PFL (Profile) files that you can d/l, place in NCS/PFL folder, then you open NCS>Load Profile>choose one of the profiles you just copied to the PFL folder. That should do it

Or, using your existing profile; NCS>File>Load Profile>choose the one you have been using>File>Edit Profile>pw is repxet>FSW/PSW>make sure the from CVT is checked>FSW-/PSW-Trace is checked>FSW_PSW.MAN is checked. Last one is the key.>OK>consistence check>OK>OK>close and reopen NCS>Load profile> choose the profile you just edited>try writing the code change again

and you do need to press the bc button on the stalk to have the display change. I know that's basic, but am covering everything

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Thanks for the reply zerocks1.

Unfortunately, I already use those profiles based on your earlier recommendations and just verified that those checkboxes were checked as per the PDF instructions.

I also checked the other profile "FSW PSW MAIN" and this also had it checked.

After coding ends, I do press the BC button to see if the new option displays but it just has the usual suspects.

Feels like we're real close and yet so far :-)

Thanks for all your help.


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menacez, if you've gotten as far as being able to read modules, and write to modules, even though it appears the code didn't take, congratulations. Pin 7-8 may actually be necessary on the 635, so I would not de solder or remove the pin. Usually when the write function appears to write, but doesn't stick, it's likely the .PFL file in NCS

There is a box in the profile you are using that is likely unchecked, when it needs to be checked and saved. Reference posts #185 and #188 (d/l's are there). There are 2 working .PFL (Profile) files that you can d/l, place in NCS/PFL folder, then you open NCS>Load Profile>choose one of the profiles you just copied to the PFL folder. That should do it

Or, using your existing profile; NCS>File>Load Profile>choose the one you have been using>File>Edit Profile>pw is repxet>FSW/PSW>make sure the from CVT is checked>FSW-/PSW-Trace is checked>FSW_PSW.MAN is checked. Last one is the key.>OK>consistence check>OK>OK>close and reopen NCS>Load profile> choose the profile you just edited>try writing the code change again

and you do need to press the bc button on the stalk to have the display change. I know that's basic, but am covering everything
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What's the exact name of the module you are trying to code? KOMBI exactly? Or something else? If if is, try choosing the LMA option instead of the CAS option when that first dialog screen appears. Then read , modify, and if I didn't mention, when you save the modified file as a .MAN you must save it as 'all files', otherwise it becomes a txt file which will not write but appears as though it did

saving as a .man >all files, is a key step. It cannot be a txt file like the .trc file it produces after a read

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Not sure what module - I'm following the PDF so click on CAS (step 57) but when I looked at the TRC file (step 61) it reduced down to 8K and I couldn't find the 'BC' entry so I used my master TRC and saved as .MAN (attached) with the BC variable set to aktiv.

The attached is what I code back to the car.

Thanks

PS: Yep all extensions are correct. I've had to add a .TXT extension so that I can attach this file.

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What's the exact name of the module you are trying to code? KOMBI exactly? Or something else? If if is, try choosing the LMA option instead of the CAS option when that first dialog screen appears. Then read , modify, and if I didn't mention, when you save the modified file as a .MAN you must save it as 'all files', otherwise it becomes a txt file which will not write but appears as though it did

saving as a .man >all files, is a key step. It cannot be a txt file like the .trc file it produces after a read
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The file you attached is a read of the entire car's backup. You need to choose the specific module (KOMBI in this case) after you

Open NCS>Load profile>OK>F1>F3>E60>CAS>F6>choose module (F4 from memory>KOMBI>read>then modify that FSW_PSW.TRC>save as FSW_PSW.MAN; all files>

Repeat only this time execute job>it will pause> then code>then coding ended

I attached my KOMBI read .TRC. Its only 6kb
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The file you attached is a read of the entire car's backup. You need to choose the specific module (KOMBI in this case) after you

Open NCS>Load profile>OK>F1>F3>E60>CAS>F6>choose module (F4 from memory>KOMBI>read>then modify that FSW_PSW.TRC>save as FSW_PSW.MAN; all files>


Ahh I see....will do - out of interest, wouldn't coding back the master backup with the 'BC' change do the same thing?

Should I set both to aktiv?

BC_DIGITAL_V
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Repeat only this time execute job>it will pause> then code>then coding ended

I attached my KOMBI read .TRC. Its only 6kb
So no need to do Step 76 & 77?
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I don't have the PDF in front of me so not sure what the steps are. To answer the question about writing the entire car. The answer is no. When you write the entire car. The 192k file; it writes it to the CAS module only. Both the CAS and LMA or in your case possibly the NFRM, have dual functions and partitions. The first acts as a backup for key files for all the modules. When you write a blank .MAN file to reset a module to factory state, it retrieves the proper code for that module from this partition on the CAS. The other partition is the Comfort Access Support ( or Sequence. Forgot the exact nomenclature). That partition controls the comfort access features of the car. Same for the LMA or NFRM. Like having two partitions on a PC with two different drive letters.

So to change code In a functional module, the code has to be written to that module specifically. There are some exceptions to that, but that's the basic answer to get you coding

Additionally, the first time you read a module, I believe a full car read is required and NCS does that automatically no matter what module you may have chosen. Then you can choose individual modules once the full car read is completed

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