Ok, how much for an E cat back exhaust out of the door. How do you decide what portions of the exhaust need to be replaced. I want the car about 30% louder and more distinct. I do not want to sound too obnoxious. I am looking for ideas and an "out the door cost". i would really like to minimize cost as I think these items are way overpriced! I could get a decent improvement in sound by just doing the mufflers could I not? Let me know what you guys think!
eisenmann do not make cat-back system but Meisterschaft does.
Please call us, we will see what we can do for you. thank you.
EisenHaus - Tel: 630.787.1600
in my opinion, whatever disputes that led the two companies to have a fallout is really none of our concern. because like you have stated ,as long as Eisenmann of Germany deny your affiliations than you have no grounds to state any claims. see my problem is, i have a Meisterchaft exhaust on my M6, and did i think my exhaust was made in Germany at the time of purchase? Sure, that's exactly why im upset because i felt i was mislead. i guess, atleast for me you guy's didn't have to make those claims, for in my mind korean made or japanese made doesn't automatically make them inferior. what's wrong here is clearly your marketing/advertising, it's misleading. i for one actually enjoy my exhaust. i love it's sound. but i do think your company needs some sort of re-structuring, so that in the future your so called " valued customers" are not mislead.
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Meisterschaft, I can't help it, but your marketing methods, your statements (for which we only have your word), and the fact that it has taken a lot of questioning by members of this board, still leave me feeling uneasy about supporting your products. One of the key thigns you do not seem to grasp is that people who want a German exhaust on their German car will just not be happy purchasing a Korean or Japanese exhaust.
Eisenmann ist a company with significant reputation, your are trying to cash in on that reputation by marketing your own product of the back of their reputation, (THIS IS FACT, dont bother denying it).
Your comments and waffle simply dont ring true, i would suggest you quite whilst you are ahead, good luck with your business.
Understood, sir..
We are currently calling up every single Meisterschaft unit purchasers
and explain the situation, apologizing for such mislead and asking for humble understanding.
If you did not get a phone call from us, you will.
During your purchase process,
if you were given thoughts or told these Meisterschaft units were built in Germany by our end, it is our bad, we do absolutely and sincerely do apologize if we have misleaded you in such way - really nothing else can be said on our side due to the fact that Meisterschaft units are not made in Germany at the end of the day and not made by eisenmann anymore......
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Originally Posted by R.O.Cafella_M6
in my opinion, whatever disputes that led the two companies to have a fallout is really none of our concern. because like you have stated ,as long as Eisenmann of Germany deny your affiliations than you have no grounds to state any claims. see my problem is, i have a Meisterchaft exhaust on my M6, and did i think my exhaust was made in Germany at the time of purchase? Sure, that's exactly why im upset because i felt i was mislead. i guess, atleast for me you guy's didn't have to make those claims, for in my mind korean made or japanese made doesn't automatically make them inferior. what's wrong here is clearly your marketing/advertising, it's misleading. i for one actually enjoy my exhaust. i love it's sound. but i do think your company needs some sort of re-structuring, so that in the future your so called " valued customers" are not mislead.
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....the fact that Meisterschaft units are not made in Germany at the end of the day and not made by eisenmann anymore......
I really wonder if english is a second language to you guys sometimes. I also wonder if you realize that the words you write do not have the intended meaning, OR you still don't get it...
Your statement above IMPLIES, that eisenmann USE TO make meisterschaft, which they didn't, except for A M3 part - and is the kind of thing that keeps the issue turning...
I really wonder if english is a second language to you guys sometimes. I also wonder if you realize that the words you write do not have the intended meaning, OR you still don't get it...
Your statement above IMPLIES, that eisenmann USE TO make meisterschaft, which they didn't, except for A M3 part - and is the kind of thing that keeps the issue turning...
Eisenmann also used to make E39 M5 Meisterschaft units as well in the begining ; as mentioned on that letter.
E39 M5 racing unit - DTM tips were exclusively made for "EisenHaus- Meisterschaft" by eisenmann.
That's a fact and that unit was on our cars before.
Last edited by Meisterschaft; 25th March 2008 at 22:52.
Reading this thread has been exhausting...no pun intended.
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I don't think you get it - give it a rest, you just keep diggin deeper...
Mark, this is how much we feel sour about the situation on our end.
It is just not enough for us as well...
We just did not see this was coming to our end like this.
anyway, we do not have any desire to argue with any of you folks,
but bring in some good things into this community and contribute.
Nothing more..
Last edited by Meisterschaft; 25th March 2008 at 23:16.
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