gtboard.com 6th video: Kelleners Sport BMW M6 vs Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Halltech - Page 5

RussRamz · 1st July 2007, 16:17

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Originally Posted by Datrojan

the Z06's light weight advantage is minimal once the M6s weight and momentum is already moving forward.

Wrong. It's the SAME. The only thing that changes throughout any acceleration curve with mass and power being equal are the drag forces based on the velocity of the air. The coefficient of drag has a HUGE influence on the speed of an automobile--especially as speeds increase. So I am sorry to burst your bubble about the rolling start having an advantage to the M6 based on weight. On the other hand, gearing would also influence the start at X speed. The lower velocity of the start while still reducing the chance for the tires to break free and the lessened likelihood of false starts, the better and likely more fair for all of us.

You can paper-race all you want. Numbers posted on paper are variable with altitude and temperature. I raced the Z06 twice. You can speculate about whatever you want, but we all have the video to watch.

Cheers.

SUPRA · 1st July 2007, 16:23

Maybe the M6 would win regardless of SS or Rolling Start

Remember Russ' car isn't stock. Neither was the Z06 when I think about it.

dubai_m5 · 1st July 2007, 23:37

I wonder what the Z06 would do if it had HEADERS and X-pipes which is worth peanuts compared to your Kellenrs. It should kiss the M6 goodbye at any speed. And one more thing I wouldnt bother racing someone with my Z to speeds above 240 kms.. I just enjoy the short distance kills that I do almost with any car i bump into, plus I dont have to worry about not having the right settings if some serious shows up next to me suddenly, all what i have to do just throw my Z into the 3rd gear and hit it....

RussRamz · 2nd July 2007, 04:54

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Originally Posted by dubai_m5

I wonder what the Z06 would do if it had HEADERS and X-pipes which is worth peanuts compared to your Kellenrs. It should kiss the M6 goodbye at any speed. And one more thing I wouldnt bother racing someone with my Z to speeds above 240 kms.. I just enjoy the short distance kills that I do almost with any car i bump into, plus I dont have to worry about not having the right settings if some serious shows up next to me suddenly, all what i have to do just throw my Z into the 3rd gear and hit it....

Sounds like you beat me cold. Good for you. You win.

T Bone · 2nd July 2007, 05:57

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Originally Posted by dubai_m5

I wonder what the Z06 would do if it had HEADERS and X-pipes which is worth peanuts compared to your Kellenrs. It should kiss the M6 goodbye at any speed. And one more thing I wouldnt bother racing someone with my Z to speeds above 240 kms.. I just enjoy the short distance kills that I do almost with any car i bump into, plus I dont have to worry about not having the right settings if some serious shows up next to me suddenly, all what i have to do just throw my Z into the 3rd gear and hit it....

Please shoot us a video from the middle east with a decent camera.....

If I wanted to, I would get an Aerial Atom or a tuned Grand National to beat up a Z06.....

SUPRA · 2nd July 2007, 09:05

I look forward to dubai_m5's video.

Congaman · 25th July 2007, 13:31

Sorry guys...I've been abroad for some weeks so I totally missed this thread. And I notice that the heat is up!

I'll try to give an objective review of the race (the 2nd). Please notice that when I started the post over at corvetteforum I had not yet seen the video. Now I have and that has given me some more info about the race. So here we go.

Up to 4th gear and speeds of 250-260/km/h the Z06 with only filter and a tune is clearly faster than the Kellners M6. I think we can all agree on that?!

But when the Z06 hits 5th gear the Kellners M6 catches up real fast. And that is what happened in this race to. BUT....from the video I can also see/hear that I let of the gas to early. I realy can't tell you why I did this?? But surely....even if I hadn't let of the gas Russ would have passed me anyhow....perhaps not on this track but for sure if we hade gone for just a little longer. But as it turns out, with me letting of the gas a bit early Ruzz seems to pass me just before the finish.....

Kellners really did a good job with the M6....the car sounds fantastic and is scary fast....and with Russ behind the wheel....it also has a nice driver....Thumbs up for Russ and his M6!!

DARK · 25th July 2007, 14:01

NOW COMMENT YOUR RACE WITH CGT?
As i clearly saw...CGT was much much faster that M6!
And you told that were faster that CGT till 200+.....

While you were a little bit faster that M6

Congaman · 25th July 2007, 16:41

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Originally Posted by DARK

NOW COMMENT YOUR RACE WITH CGT?
As i clearly saw...CGT was much much faster that M6!
And you told that were faster that CGT till 200+.....

While you were a little bit faster that M6

Ohh...welcome back Yaroslav!

Well....I can't comment on the race between the Kellner M6 Vs CGT as I wasn't in that race. But to my understanding the CGT left a little early?! I'm sure Russ can bring some more light on this.

And yes. I was ahead of the CGT up to around 200 km/h when he misshifted. As I also have stated before....I'm sure the CGT would have taken me without a problem had he not missed his gear shift. Don't know the reason why I was quicker than the CGT up to 200 km. It doesn't make much sense as the CGT is lighter than the Z06 and has more power. Perhaps the CGT owner had a bad start. Perhaps I started a little early. I really don't know.

Hope you are satisfied!

Fadis Z · 26th July 2007, 07:00

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Originally Posted by Congaman

Sorry guys...I've been abroad for some weeks so I totally missed this thread. And I notice that the heat is up!

I'll try to give an objective review of the race (the 2nd). Please notice that when I started the post over at corvetteforum I had not yet seen the video. Now I have and that has given me some more info about the race. So here we go.

Up to 4th gear and speeds of 250-260/km/h the Z06 with only filter and a tune is clearly faster than the Kellners M6. I think we can all agree on that?!

But when the Z06 hits 5th gear the Kellners M6 catches up real fast. And that is what happened in this race to. BUT....from the video I can also see/hear that I let of the gas to early. I realy can't tell you why I did this?? But surely....even if I hadn't let of the gas Russ would have passed me anyhow....perhaps not on this track but for sure if we hade gone for just a little longer. But as it turns out, with me letting of the gas a bit early Ruzz seems to pass me just before the finish.....

Kellners really did a good job with the M6....the car sounds fantastic and is scary fast....and with Russ behind the wheel....it also has a nice driver....Thumbs up for Russ and his M6!!

Ok, so in other words you were ahead even in fith gear but got passed because you let off the gas..

I give credit guys, to the M6. Obviously this year your plan was to race and try to beat the Z06 by having the race go past 162 mph. But I am not sure if there is alot to brag about that given that 5th and 6th gears in the Z06 are gas guzzler gears and are more of an overdrive gear. Who cares, right? Right. You guys don't care and all that matters is that past 162 mph, that modded M6 would start reeling in the Z06, and I understand that. I am glad I live in the US where the chances of running into an M6 and getting beat is slim, especially given that I would be considered lucky if I can get a race past 140 here.

Bottom line is that that M6 starts to catch the Z06 past 162 mph, but from this story, and if I were to guess, I would say that it would take 170+ mph for that M6 to actaully pass and be ahead of that Z06. jmo