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Old 22nd June 2007, 20:23   #471
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I can't see the results of the race because of a pole in the way. It seems apparent that the Viper had better acceleration at launch, but the M5 pulled it in rather quickly.

As for the information on my car, here it is: My E63 M6 Evosport/Kelleners Tune

What is not listed here is the Cda. You're going to have to Google for that yourself as well as the numbers for an SRT-10 Viper.
if you can't see the results why did you say the m5 won? regardless, you don't need to see the results to understand that the viper crossed the line first since the et/mph board lit up in the left lane before the right lane (although it's possible the m could have had a lower et if he was sleeping at the light). and there really was never much more than a car length lead at the start.

like i've been saying...there's information about this airstrip race that isn't being shared. it would be important to know if a car is handicapped or should be running in the special olympics isntead of one of gustav's events. ironically information like the following is just now showing up on mbworld but not here??? PATHETIC!!!

http://forums.mbworld.org/forums/sho...89#post2283589

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I spoke with the Viper before the race and he had said that he was having problems getting his car into 3rd gear I believe. He stated that the torque was so high that he was FORCED to wait for the engine to settle to get it into gear. It might be one of the reasons why he lost, but I can't say for sure. I didn't see him after the end of the day.

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Old 22nd June 2007, 20:48   #472
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As far as I know none of the owners outside of the Ruf RT12 (damaged right rear tire) and the Supra (ignition issues) reported any faults with their cars. For whatever reason it is always feasible that there might be some small issues with other cars but the owners certainly never mentioned them up to now.

It would be interesting to have the Viper owner post here about the exact specifications of his car and if there were any known faults with the car on the day.
I could have sworn someone posted on other threads and forums that the viper was having transmission problems. They stated that he had to let the revs come down before he could get the car in gear and had alot of trouble getting into third. I believe it was RussRamz that posted the info. It seems like most of the Non M cars had "issues"

Edit: Chiromikey beat me to it

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Old 22nd June 2007, 21:09   #473
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if you can't see the results why did you say the m5 won? regardless, you don't need to see the results to understand that the viper crossed the line first since the et/mph board lit up in the left lane before the right lane (although it's possible the m could have had a lower et if he was sleeping at the light). and there really was never much more than a car length lead at the start.

like i've been saying...there's information about this airstrip race that isn't being shared. it would be important to know if a car is handicapped or should be running in the special olympics isntead of one of gustav's events. ironically information like the following is just now showing up on mbworld but not here??? PATHETIC!!!

http://forums.mbworld.org/forums/sho...89#post2283589

This stuff gets to you doesn't it? Now that's pathetic.


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Old 22nd June 2007, 22:20   #474
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Gustav,
I checked but i think i missed something??

Where is the M5 Touring vs Gallardo video. if not what was he result
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Old 22nd June 2007, 22:45   #475
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I could have sworn someone posted on other threads and forums that the viper was having transmission problems. They stated that he had to let the revs come down before he could get the car in gear and had alot of trouble getting into third. I believe it was RussRamz that posted the info. It seems like most of the Non M cars had "issues"

Edit: Chiromikey beat me to it
I just tracked down the first mention of it here:
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/sho...&postcount=139

Thing is that Gustav was trying to run as many match-ups as possible that day. That means it's impossible for him to spend meaningful time with everyone. It's only days after the fact that all the information becomes available.

That's not an issue to true gearheads who will understand that things can - and will - go wrong. And find it interesting to analyse why a certain run ended the way it did. Also it is a fact that owners - only after being soundly beaten - will feel the need to bring up things they didn't find an issue before the run. Which again is not an issue to a true enthousiast who will be happy to see the same run again at a later event.

What this thread does make obvious is that there are some mighty insecure people around that feel the need to accuse this as being a 'staged' event. That's just screwed up on so many levels...
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Old 22nd June 2007, 22:52   #476
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I just tracked down the first mention of it here:
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/sho...&postcount=139

Thing is that Gustav was trying to run as many match-ups as possible that day. That means it's impossible for him to spend meaningful time with everyone. It's only days after the fact that all the information becomes available.

That's not an issue to true gearheads who will understand that things can - and will - go wrong. And find it interesting to analyse why a certain run ended the way it did. Also it is a fact that owners - only after being soundly beaten - will feel the need to bring up things they didn't find an issue before the run. Which again is not an issue to a true enthousiast who will be happy to see the same run again at a later event.

What this thread does make obvious is that there are some mighty insecure people around that feel the need to accuse this as being a 'staged' event. That's just screwed up on so many levels...
+1 million. Gustav is taking alot of time to upload these vids for everyone's viewing pleasure and now he's taking crap even calling into questions his motives (just to sell DVD's) or staging the event. Everyone is assuming Gustav knew everything about every run especially when he is trying to video tape etc is a ridiculous expectation. Just enjoy the vids, no one is trying to say BMW is beats all, especilly when the Ruf kicked everybodies butt.
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Gustav....a request....

Can the next video be something other than a BMW beating a MB? Just to show BMWs don't monopolize AMG whippings?
  • A nice Porsche vs. AMG video would be good
  • Also Cazorp would love to see how the V8 RS4 did....
  • Lambo vs. AMG?
While we have alittle fun, this isn't about BMWs versus everyone.... It is about Supercars playing together....something not everyone sees everyday.

Thanks....I am still monitoring if anyone is calling you a cheat or liar....
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Gustav....a request....

Can the next video be something other than a BMW beating a MB? Just to show BMWs don't monopolize AMG whippings?
  • A nice Porsche vs. AMG video would be good
  • Also Cazorp would love to see how the V8 RS4 did....
  • Lambo vs. AMG?
While we have alittle fun, this isn't about BMWs versus everyone.... It is about Supercars playing together....something not everyone sees everyday.

Thanks....I am still monitoring if anyone is calling you a cheat or liar....
+1 to Porsche beating up the AMG this time. But even better would be to the Audi R8 vs M5 or M6 or M3 CSL.
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if you can't see the results why did you say the m5 won? regardless, you don't need to see the results to understand that the viper crossed the line first since the et/mph board lit up in the left lane before the right lane (although it's possible the m could have had a lower et if he was sleeping at the light). and there really was never much more than a car length lead at the start.

like i've been saying...there's information about this airstrip race that isn't being shared. it would be important to know if a car is handicapped or should be running in the special olympics isntead of one of gustav's events. ironically information like the following is just now showing up on mbworld but not here??? PATHETIC!!!

http://forums.mbworld.org/forums/sho...89#post2283589
My friend. I wan't trying to hide anything. If I was, I wouldn't share it ONLY on the mbworld.org forum.

I think you could use a hug, a beer, and a cheap hooker... My treat if we ever meet in person...
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Hey guys what are you talking about????
Did you see the video???
You saw how M6 was the same as Viper!
What is the question?

The stock viper is the same as stock M5!
This one is tuned M6! And this M6 has a lot advantages of this tuned viper like aerodinamic,tranny etc...

Viper has a nice low end but dead high end...The question is over...
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