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RKN · 18th June 2007, 03:16

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Originally Posted by Gustav

One last teaser

T Bone · 18th June 2007, 04:51

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Originally Posted by DRM

T-Bone should study that vid so he'll understand how Porsche's are drivers' cars for those that are skilled.

What's with picking on me? I used to race Porsches!

Anyway....the CGT sounds unworldly.....that thing sounds so much better than ANYTHING short of a modern F1 car

Wayward · 18th June 2007, 05:33

T-Bone, you really, no make that *really* do need to come to appreciate why Porsche is what it is, why their cars are legendary, the enormous following they've engendered thanks to their rear-engined, ahem, anomaly, and that they're independent as a car company to this day.

Stating that they need to quote, "modernize" the 911 is redundant -- the 996 was truly heresy for those in the know. Mass produced (customer) version weren't intended for those attempting to compensate for, oh, well, you know...

T Bone · 18th June 2007, 05:56

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Originally Posted by Wayward

T-Bone, you really, no make that *really* do need to come to appreciate why Porsche is what it is, why their cars are legendary, the enormous following they've engendered thanks to their rear-engined, ahem, anomaly, and that they're independent as a car company to this day.

Stating that they need to quote, "modernize" the 911 is redundant -- the 996 was truly heresy for those in the know. Mass produced (customer) version weren't intended for those attempting to compensate for, oh, well, you know...

Wayward (and DRM)..... I was a Porsche junkie well before I became a BMW junkie and I do appreciate the history and heritage of Porsche....probably more than some Porsche owners.

911 had it own little niche for a long period of time.....now and largely thanks to Ferdinand Piech (ironically who married into the Porsche family), competition was finally unleashed on the 911.

If you guys think the 911GT2 had problems competing with Vipers and Vettes at Lemans.....what until the R8, Z10 / Z9, and MB sports cars come to life.

A rear engine platform is just that, it has its limitations and unless Porsche wants to cater to a small little niche, they need to evolve. This is not disparging the 964 / 993 / 996 / 997 in anyway......

Wayward · 18th June 2007, 06:09

TB, you have a good point, but we really do need to take into account what made the 911 so popular in the first place -- it was challenging to drive., thanks to that rear engine. Sadly, they've engineered that challenge *out* with the advent of the 996.

I suppose that's what I miss and what is missed for many. Didn't mean to sound too condescending or harsh, btw.

We do know that the P-men are working on the type 998 for ~MY2009/2010, 3.8L. lightweight construction, and DSG, almost assuredly. The old '11 will be around for another decade or so.

Something of a challenge, competitively speaking for the engineers at this point, no dout -- but then that's the way it's always been. Hopefully we'll both still be around for the really futuristic, mainstream iteration.