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Old 13th September 2006, 01:57   #31
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Quick question. Might the bolts that hold the CD changer in place be TORX bolts? I think that's what you meant, but I can't see it clearly. If you can confirm and know the size of the wrench req'd that would be great.

Thanks for this. You're saving me bucks. Of course, I have to insure the process in the same on a 650i, but it almost has to be.
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Old 13th September 2006, 05:00   #32
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At this point I wish I had done it on my own.

My cost was the $299 for the parts and 0.75 of an hour for labor (which I told them was the BMW standard) for a total of around $420 with tax (including the blank for the CD changer hole (which is back ordered)).

They actually spent quite bit more time on the install than anyone on this board since it was done by one of the chief mechanics (little experience with anthing to do with non-pure auto electronics). The literature says that prior to install the dealership should ensure that the system is completely up to date WRT the s/w level of the car. I think it has already been mentioned that since this can take some time they would like to be compensated for it as they are only getting customer money for the module cost and the 0.75 labor hours or whatever; not the s/w update. (Although I would argue that BMW has a duty to be proactive with their s/w rev updates and they should be convered under warranty-- why do I have to guess what their bugs are to get an update???)

At the end of the day I am very glad to have this as THE alternative to sat radio, radio, or MP3s thru the DVD drive.
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Old 13th September 2006, 17:13   #33
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Jster, so far I've been quoted $1000 and $670 for an install. If
I found a place that would do it for 420 I would have them do it.
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Old 13th September 2006, 18:36   #34
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The cost I gave earlier equates to $580+Tax including parts.

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Old 13th September 2006, 23:36   #35
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I was at my dealer today and they confirmed $299 for the part (they give 10% off) and .75 hours for install.
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If it is being fitted during PDI then they will probably need to recode the car anyway.

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Amazing range on the pricing. My dealer has the part for sale at $118.50 (Canadian mini bucks), which is good, but they want 4 hours at $105 per hour to install it.

I'm likely going to do my own install, thanks to the brilliant guide above. I'm just a bit worried about the sound quality (or music quality, I guess) being inferior to CDs.

Any comments on the quality issue ??

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Use a bit rate of 192mbps when importing your cd's into itunes.

Even the ones I have at 128 mbps sound fine but the 192 mbps is definately better.

In itunes click on the edit tab then preferences. Select the advance tab then importing tab. There select 192 in the setting tab.

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If you have a big enough iPod set the rate a bit higher. Make sure it is set to AAC first. Set it to custom, select VBR and then 256. For most stuff you won't notice a difference but things like trumpet, piano, and complex musical packages will benefit. VBR automatically alters the bitrate depending on the complexity of the source material. Check the "Use error correction when reading CDs" box. It will give you some of the benefits of Exact Audio Copy without the effort. Even if you don't intend to buy anything from iTunes fill-in the credit card and address information, then you can retrieve album art again without going to the effort. The traditional tools will get you a better end result and are more flexible but require more effort to get the extra out of them. iTunes 7 will get you 90% of the way there.

The bit-rate is based on a number of controlled blind-tests which established that 320k mp3 is indisinguishable from CD by MOST people. 256k AAC is roughly eqivalent. I've got a pair of studio headphones coming so that I can test my ears with my music.

You may also find it useful to select manual updating of music and video, especially if you want to use iTunes on more than one PC. Just go to the Library, select all and then drag all the music onto the iPod icon. It will only copy new or changed files. iTunes can be a pain and delete stuff from your iPod if it isn't present on the PCs library.

DON'T buy stuff from iTunes - it is cheaper to buy the CDs online and rip them yourself. The copy protection is horrible and the quality isn't great. If you want to use them with a decent HiFi at home you may want to use losless encoding at a later date. I really must write that document...

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If you are on the edge as to whether to do this AND buy an IPOD (or use one that you already own)....DO IT!! I upgraded my pod to the 60gb since the old one didn't have the right connector. So this thing wound up costing me some $700 plus all-in and despite the fact that I would now do the install myself and despite some of the odd bits due to BMW's implementation of the control module, this is really worth it.

Yes, your music needs to be ripped at least to 128 and as I go all my new stuff (and my old as I get to it) is being done at 192. Tim is spot on for all of his advice WRT bit rates, etc. So far I am thinking that I will not be renewing sat radio.

(One major caveat....if you are a classical or long piece person, this may not be the thing for you. As mentioned before, not being able to pick up a piece where you left off is a major problem. Always starting at the beginning of a track that hasn't completed is not a big deal for pop music but, imho, this may be too annoying to deal with on a regular basis for classical and certain jazz.)
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