ECU by Kronen tuning / Singh Autosport

flgojr · 6th July 2006, 07:17

I have ben waiting for a ECU software. After reading the post made by Hamann 6 and Adam of Kronen. I decided to give them a vist. Adam, told me that it would be possible to do the up grade on this visit. So, why not $1,500.00 compare to others. It took about 3hours. But I'm telling you all , that it is a very good deal for a software. software.

So attention Nor-Cal M5 E60 owners. The place to go for your ECU is Kronen Tuning
at 45277 Fremont Blvd. Suite 8 Fremont CA. 510-687-9201 adam@kroneng.com Man I can't express my feeling in words. But this is a musyt have.

Again, thanks ADAM!

flgojr

chrisn · 6th July 2006, 07:22

Would be great if, after you compose youself, you could try to put in words...

Art @ · 6th July 2006, 07:26

LOL, he is too excited it seems. Thank you Freddie for your kind words. Please do drive safe and please dont call me when you get tickets.

flgojr · 6th July 2006, 07:31

Yes, I'm speechless. What I mean is you have to have it to tell if you made the right choice.

Adam, can you post the up grades gain from this software?

Art @ · 6th July 2006, 07:33

Freddie, i am working with Singh to get the numbers. Might take a couple of days. We are going to upload a video real soon.

flgojr · 6th July 2006, 07:43

Landed my back to earth. Up date information on SINGH

HP GAIN 35 TO 40
TORQUE 35LB
TOP SPEED 211/mp

You also need to read the post of Hamann 6!

Gustav · 6th July 2006, 10:56

Same questions as always

Dyno before and after please, and post the dyno sheets here for an "analysis"

Art @ · 6th July 2006, 11:20

Gustav, you probably know me from mbworld.org. I am assuming that you will probably know I only carry reputable tuner brands (brabus, renntech, carlsson for mbz) and in this particular case, i sincerely believe in Singh's ECU upgrade. Although i know baseline and post-mod dyno runs are very necessary to determine the gain on hp/torque, personally i would think the ECU upgrade from Singh is worth every penny.

Give me a few days, and i will try to obtain the dyno sheets.

chrisn · 6th July 2006, 16:00

I emailed Singh on this topic. They have had bad luck dyno'ing M5s. I have read elsewhere that other tuners have had similar issues.

I have had my E60 M5 dyno'd so know it "works" on the dyno. I am considering this ECU and, if I do it, I will get an independent dyno before/after AND do some 0-60 and 0-100 runs with the GTECH before/after. I think it's the only way to get objective data: dyno + street numbers.

It's just odd that, given people's obsession with performance, they don't try harder to measure gains. If the placebo produces euphoria, why question it, I guess.

If the M5 did not come with P500S mode (only P500), I'll bet I could charge $2K+ for a mod that "unlocked the power of the beast." In reality, of course, you just need to press a little hard on the gas to get the same effect for free....

BTW, I don't mean to bash on Kronen/Singh in particular (I will probably buy their product!), it's just weird that solid data is so hard to come by (from tuners in general).

-Chris

unfoundhorsepower · 6th July 2006, 16:10

My 2 cents.....I think tuners are either too busy or tooo lazy or just don't have the ability to give us the facts..........to support your product you must back it with data sheets.........thanks Gustav