Now I'm furious!! - the weekend from HELL - Page 8

frylord · 18th March 2006, 05:20

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Originally Posted by Ashok Arora

"Gearbox slave cylinder leaking into bell housing - losing pressure - whole unit has to be changed".

Well what can I say, **** happens.

Just that it should happen twice to you, you're a very unlucky man.

BMW is not to blame about the leaking cylinder. BMW is to blame that they didn't have a better way of daignosing this problem. It is a very common problem with hydraulic clutches, Mazda and Toyota are renouwned for these problems.

A leaking slave cylinder isn't really a huge problem, most of the time the master will seperate enough to allow shifting. The car is still driveable as if nothing happend, you just need a replacement asap. It does become a problem however when badly engineered software prevents you from doing any normal driving.

Anyway let this be a learning experience for all of us. Eventualy those cylinders will need replacing on everybodies car so if the same happens to your car a few years down the line you know what todo.

The question which is stuck in my mind, why did they replace the whole gearbox? I'm sure BMW has those cylinders in abundance, so why not just replace the cylinder instead of the whole gearbox? It's much cheaper for one. Did you insist they replace the gearbox?

Ashok Arora · 18th March 2006, 10:23

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Originally Posted by frylord

Did you insist they replace the gearbox?

No, but I told them I'm not taking the car back until the problem is fixed permanently - I can't go on breaking down all the time.

jfwall · 18th March 2006, 11:04

I just had the same thing happen although they spotted it when they changed my Vanos line and upgraded the S/W. I was without the car for a few days and they said initially they would just change the cynlinder head but then they had to change the whole gearbox, also their was an issue with a link that took another day to fix. So far not broken down though (phew)

PPP · 18th March 2006, 13:41

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Originally Posted by MEnthusiast

PPP,
While there are individual problems with this M5, I believe the same was true of the E39. I personally know someone who had major mechanical problems with 2 E39 M5s.... So I disagree with your theory that the E60 is somehow unreliable as a whole.

I am sympathetic to those like Ashok who have experienced true problems- I do not believe these are the rule for the M5- rather the exception- but reading them on the internet makes it seem like the rule.

I agree most M5's wil probably be absolutely fine, and that there are some serious teething problems in the rush to get products to market.

The £ sterling cost of the official BMW warranty (for cars outside the manufacturers warranty period) over the last 5 years is as follows.

Yr 1 400
Yr2 450
Yr3 520
Yr4 720
Yr5 1868 + £250 excess on each claim, & exclusions over 60k miles

Now tell me what a reasonable person is to think of the reasons for the mega hike in Yr 5.

How would the average American BMW convert deal with this price hike? What questions would you ask BMW?

AUTOG4 · 20th March 2006, 07:41

Hope they sort your car out or replace it. In your post about other choices, just saw in "automobile magazine".

Maserati is offereing a Quattroporte "Sport GT" model with the following changes.

35% faster SMG
Better braking system
20" wheels
Sport exhaust
Carbon fiber interior trim

My guess still more luxury based than the M5.

MEnthusiast · 20th March 2006, 11:18

PPP in your situation, I would lease the M5 now, and then get back on line for when the lease is over. This way, here in the US the maintenance and warranty are covered for 4 years. Then revisit the idea of ownership when the lease is over- so youve basically paid the depreciation and a little penalty and if you can use pre tax dollars (eg a company car) then you might even be more ahead. Btw- thats what I am doing

M-Fünf · 20th March 2006, 22:13

Ashok,
First, I'm terribly sorry to hear about all the problems you're having with the car.

I've been away from the board for a while, and hadn't seen some of the recent trials and tribulations...

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Originally Posted by Ashok Arora

No, but I told them I'm not taking the car back until the problem is fixed permanently - I can't go on breaking down all the time.

You are one of the most patient people I know. I wouldn't have been able to make it past the first tranny replacement...you're on your third???

It would be great if they would put it in writing: "Mr. Arora, your car is permanently fixed now. If it should fail again, we will replace it at our cost" Eh, probably won't happen

Hope all is well with you and the family...

Hang in there!!!

vndkshn · 21st March 2006, 15:26

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Originally Posted by riaz

I am wondering whether this is a deliberate ploy by bmw GB to piss you off since you bought your car in Belgium

LMAO!!! Funniest post in a long time.

Sorry to hear about it Ashok, that really sucks.

I agree with Jerry, the lease idea is really the best way with such a new car. At least you would have an automatic way out.