I have now heard from two reputable sources that the first thing I should do after I get my car is change the tires. After researching options, it appears that there is only one other 19" tire on the market with a 27" overall diameter, and that is a Perelli PZero Russo. Has anyone else heard this about the Conti's, and do you have experience with the Pirelli's?
I have now heard from two reputable sources that the first thing I should do after I get my car is change the tires. After researching options, it appears that there is only one other 19" tire on the market with a 27" overall diameter, and that is a Perelli PZero Russo. Has anyone else heard this about the Conti's, and do you have experience with the Pirelli's?
The Pirelli P Zero Rosso's are what came with my slk55 and I've been very happy with them. They are quiet and comfortable on the road and work great on the track as well. I managed about 8 track days this summer on the rosso's before I had to replace them with PS2's. In contrast, the PS2's seem to have marginally better grip (if at all) but the Rosso's were more comfortable on the road and also felt better when pushed to the limit at the track (felt better, not performed better). Summary: the Rosso's are a perfect compromise for track and road use. I've also had birdgestone S03's but those sidewalls are too harsh on the road. I know it's a different car than the M5 but same basic tire construction and technology so you get the idea. I'm glad the Rosso's come in the M5's stock fitment as that is what I'll probably put on to replace the conti's after I destroy them at the track. In a car as heavy and powerful as the M5, it wouldn't take long.
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Why? BMW chose the Contis and developed the car with them. What is so terribly wrong with them that they require discarding? What do your "reputable sources" offer as the reasons? Are there legitimate concerns or is this simply a product of the fashionable "OEM-parts-have-to-be-crap" attitide? I do not recall reading a single review of the M5 that complained about the tires. Also, I think the Contis placed second in Car & Driver's recent comparison.
Why? BMW chose the Contis and developed the car with them. What is so terribly wrong with them that they require discarding? What do your "reputable sources" offer as the reasons? Are there legitimate concerns or is this simply a product of the fashionable "OEM-parts-have-to-be-crap" attitide? I do not recall reading a single review of the M5 that complained about the tires. Also, I think the Contis placed second in Car & Driver's recent comparison.
Their rationale is likely.... swap out the contis so we can charge you up the ***** for a new set of rubber together with the new set of wheels we're gonna rape you on
kidding but seriously, I have not heard any bad things about the contis from any of the media. if anything, people had good things to say about them. Also, aren't the contis the only tires available in that fitment that are actually rated to 200 mph which the M5 is capable off when de-limited?
The problems I heard of are in regards to tramlining issues and tires becoming "out of round" after 5k or so miles. I am glad to hear that the tires are OK if that is the case. As far as BMW using the tire as OEM, costs and politics always play a factor no?
I think what is scary is the limited amount of choice we are going to have early on. While the Conti's for the M5 were developed with BMW, Contis in general don't have a great rep out there, I hope these are the exception. They seem to be out of round a lot, and don't have the grip compared to other maximum performance tires. I haven't tried the Rossos, Tire rack has lots of reviews, but it is hard to compare the OEM M5 tire with the ones Tire Rack sells to most of their customers.
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The problems I heard of are in regards to tramlining issues and tires becoming "out of round" after 5k or so miles. I am glad to hear that the tires are OK if that is the case. As far as BMW using the tire as OEM, costs and politics always play a factor no?
The Conti's do tramline badly on poor road surfaces but thats about their only vice, dry grip is awesome and wet performance about what you would expect. Have had PZero's on a 545 I would worry about wear rate and their tendency to strip the shoulders off the tyres at the front. My only ever blow out was a PZero Rosso. I will be sticking to the Conti's until I hear good reports of something else.
Bridgestone came out with a new performance tyre as well called RE050, not sure how capable they are as its still relative new (~2 mnths) to the market.
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