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Old 19th September 2005, 19:52   #1
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E60 Beast on P400 mode vs. E39 Beast

Just wondering how close the E39 Beast comes to the new E60 Beast on its 400 hp mode. All the test results I've seen of the E60 are on the full 507 hp (as it should be), so just curious if anyone has seen either official results (0-60, 1/4 mile, etc.), or perhaps has had both an E60 and E39 Beast and can casually comment on the differences.

Probably a more one-to-one comparo would be once the 6-speed manual gets released on the US E60s, so we'll stay tuned...
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Old 20th September 2005, 00:02   #2
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Re: E60 Beast on P400 mode vs. E39 Beast

I've heard of the two different modes which are activated by a button, but I don't know what is different, mechanically, between the two modes. Anyone know?
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Old 20th September 2005, 02:16   #3
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Re: E60 Beast on P400 mode vs. E39 Beast

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I've heard of the two different modes which are activated by a button, but I don't know what is different, mechanically, between the two modes. Anyone know?
When you start the E60 M5, it always starts in P400 mode; that's 400 horsepower. When you push the M button, all of your settings kick in and then you get the full 500 horsepower.

I think it's akin to the Sport on/off modes in our cars.
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Re: E60 Beast on P400 mode vs. E39 Beast

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When you start the E60 M5, it always starts in P400 mode; that's 400 horsepower. When you push the M button, all of your settings kick in and then you get the full 500 horsepower.

I think it's akin to the Sport on/off modes in our cars.
When you push the sport button in our cars, it only changes the throttle responsiveness. It doesn't actually change the horsepower.

Right, I've heard of the switch between 400 and 500 horsepower, but what, mechanically is changing to make this actual power difference. I recall that in some of the old vettes, you could actually turn off a couple of the cyliners. I think that they were V8s that you could turn off 2 cylinder, but I've heard that they ran like crap. I doubt that is what this is though.
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Re: E60 Beast on P400 mode vs. E39 Beast

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When you push the sport button in our cars, it only changes the throttle responsiveness. It doesn't actually change the horsepower.

Right, I've heard of the switch between 400 and 500 horsepower, but what, mechanically is changing to make this actual power difference. I recall that in some of the old vettes, you could actually turn off a couple of the cyliners. I think that they were V8s that you could turn off 2 cylinder, but I've heard that they ran like crap. I doubt that is what this is though.
I knew that, I was just saying how the button in the E60 does things. Sorry for the confusion.
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Re: E60 Beast on P400 mode vs. E39 Beast

Perhaps it doesn't allow full throttle openings at P400 and full throttle physically is intrepreted as 80% throttle in the drive-by-wire.

I don't think anyone knows.
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Re: E60 Beast on P400 mode vs. E39 Beast

Now that I think about it, this post is perhaps better suited for the E60 Board as there are plenty of European folks that have been experiencing the E60 Beast so they will have more to comment.

Gustav, can you kindly copy/move it there, please. Thx
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Re: E60 Beast on P400 mode vs. E39 Beast

Done.

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Gustav, can you kindly copy/move it there, please. Thx
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Re: E60 Beast on P400 mode vs. E39 Beast

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Done.
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Re: E60 Beast on P400 mode vs. E39 Beast

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I recall that in some of the old vettes, you could actually turn off a couple of the cyliners. I think that they were V8s that you could turn off 2 cylinder, but I've heard that they ran like crap.
Incorrect. On the 90's ZR1, there was a valet setting that prevented 8 of the 16 throttle bodies from opening, and reduced fuel and spark curves. I believe it also limited RPM range, but it has been awhile so I may be mistaken on this. It limited the engine to about 270HP from what Chevy said, however, having driven them, I would suspect under 200hp.

The car ran fine in this mode. In fact, you could drive it all day and not know the difference until you put your foot in it.
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