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post #61 of 71 Old 6th February 2017, 09:26 PM
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No the other way around: START the engine BEFORE you start the DIS procedure instead of starting it DURING the test procedure.
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post #62 of 71 Old 7th February 2017, 12:24 AM
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No the other way around: START the engine BEFORE you start the DIS procedure instead of starting it DURING the test procedure.
I think he lacked some punctuation. The way I read it, my punctuation added:

I have already tried [starting the process in DIS with the engine already running] but it didn't seem to work. If i don't start the engine and do like quick read of the codes, DIS lets me do it just fine, but as soon as i start the engine, error 200.95 [appears]. Never had this issue before. I am so disappointed that i can't get the end of this.

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post #63 of 71 Old 9th February 2017, 04:43 AM Thread Starter
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Turns out the cable was shorted ordered a new cable got the bleeding done today did it at least 3 times and performed the vanos tested 3 times as well and this is what i got.
All the Banks measurements were not met there were .40 and it was saying not Okay next to them.

Does this mean the Solenoids? I will upload pictures that i took from DIS so you guys can help me decide if its the solenoids the timing error still comes back after the engine idles.
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It may take a few more bleeding to get better results. The vanos system hates any air trapped within or dirt that may come into contact with the vanos solenoids especially. Did you change your oil? Also make sure you clear any adaptations before proceeding. I found that helps.

I applaud you for the great effort put through on this project. Best of luck don't give up you almost there
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I did change my oil. I ran the test 2 to 3 more times same results it idles very poorly the rpm moves back and forth when its idling and few minutes into it again the same codes come up. I can seem to get around it when its doing the bleeding test the codes do no come up as well as no check engine light. After the bleeding is done the codes come up again.
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The hunting up/down of the idle could be indicative of poor fuel/air mixture or ratio. Double check your hoses/connections ,maybe you may have moved or not plugged in a vacuum line correctly.
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The hunting up/down of the idle could be indicative of poor fuel/air mixture or ratio. Double check your hoses/connections ,maybe you may have moved or not plugged in a vacuum line correctly.
Check this, if the hoses are good then your solenoids need changing out.
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Check this, if the hoses are good then your solenoids need changing out.
I messed around with the solenoid figured which ones are better put them on 1 side and put the other semi bad ones on the other did the test and oh man bank 2 codes come up for intake and exhaust. Now i am on a hunt for 4 solenoids.

Question that i have do i have to buy the new revision ones or can i get the old ones as well? The car is an 06.
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I messed around with the solenoid figured which ones are better put them on 1 side and put the other semi bad ones on the other did the test and oh man bank 2 codes come up for intake and exhaust. Now i am on a hunt for 4 solenoids.

Question that i have do i have to buy the new revision ones or can i get the old ones as well? The car is an 06.
I thought there was just 1 design.
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Yea, They should be all one design, most likely updated part #'s. Question, you never threw a solenoid code before opening up the engine correct? So most likely two things happened.Either the solenoids got contaminated with dirt or they finally just quit.
The solenoids are well know to throw a false positive code, meaning they are extremely sensitive to dirt. BMW, in the S85 repair manual tell you to be extremely careful when working with them.You have to make sure you have a super clean environment. I occasionally check mine from time to time when I run my vanos bleed.I have seen them show integrity issues from time to time , but never threw a code. I tend to see this as my oil get closer to end of life.

So just make sure they are clean and run a few more test before biting the bullet. Good luck!
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