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You ready to send me your car yet @ACG ?
I have been sitting here keeping quiet about this as I know of one shop which has been working on this for almost 2 years + and still do not have a working model to show. If it was as easy as it is listed on here then I would have hoped to see a working model by now, especially after this much time.


Jim if you think you can achieve this then I will happily send you my car

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White LED Interior Lighting / Black/White CF Steering Wheel Roundel
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RD Sports 6 Piston F 380/35mm and 4 Piston R 380/32mm Big Brake Kit.
Soft Close Doors / HUD/ Active Seats.
The journey continues......

Dynojet 698rwhp / 498ft lb trq.
Old 60-130mph 8.29secs....new time to come.

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2015 Jaguar F Type R, black on black
2006 BMW M5 VT2-650 low compression supercharged: 698rwhp on Dynojet.
2001 Porsche 996 Twin Turbo, GT3 rear sway bar, Rennline CF front strut bar, Tarrett drop links and toe links, GT3 control arms, BC coilovers, Sharkwerks EVOM tune, RPi exhaust, Sharkwerks sports clutch, HRE 540r wheels, K16 Billet turbos, GTRS Intercoolers: 535rwhp, 550ft lbs trq. SOLD
2004 Infiniti G35 APS Twin Turbo with built motor and fully built transmission. 520rwhp and 550ft trq. SOLD
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post #12 of 202 Old 14th June 2015, 01:52 AM
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Might lose a little top end...but it will be quick!

All the problems associated with rear end gearing changes on both the SMG and DCT are solved inside the DME. The speed table for the SMG (still labeled SMG even in the mss60) uses just that...wheel speed. But not as read, but calculated by RPM from the selected gear and either CPS or layshaft sensor.

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If you want to retain the stock total gear ratio, a shorter final drive gear is an option.

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While I'm just leaving things here...what's the point of using a stock DCT. Eventually, you're gonna want more power...

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don't mine losing a little top end, I can make up for that in other ways. Just let me know when it's a good time to take a drive down your way , I can always get a flight back via the company

ESS Supercharged VT2-650
Custom ESS Alpha N Tune
Sprint Booster V2
RPI GTS Exhaust
RPI SV1 Oil Cooler
RPI Jet Hot Coated Headers
Snow Performance Water / Methanol Injection System.
10.1:1 Low Compression Engine Build / Mahle Custom Pistons / Carrillo Rods / Custom Fuel System / Custom Rod Bearings.
KW V3 Coilovers
Dinan Rear Sway Bar / Dinan Front Roll Control / Dinan Monoballs.
Daily Setup: 3 Pc ADV.1 05 wheels F 20x9 / 255/35/20 R 20x10.5 / 295/30/20 / Michelin PSS Tires
12mm Rogue Engineering Spacers.
Track Setup: Apex Arc-8 wheels F 18x9 / Hoosier A6 P245/40ZR-18 R 18x10.5 / Hoosier A6 P315/30ZR-18.
Vorsteiner Rep Hood / Gloss Black Roof Wrap / Smoked LED Side Markers / Limo Tint
Custom Headlights with Orion V2 Rings / LCI Fins / LCI Clear Eyebrows
Custom Blacked Out LCI Tail Lights and Miranda Bruce V6.1 Cables
Hartge Rep Urethane Front Lip
AC Schnitzer Roof Spoiler
Matte Black Kidneys Grills / Gloss Black Side Gills / Gloss Black Rear M5 Emblem / Black/White CF Hood &Trunk Roundel / Rear Bumper Mesh / M5 Puddle lights
Electric Fold Away Front License Plate Frame
CF Rear Diffuser / CF Side Skirt Extensions /CF Rear Side Extensions.
White LED Interior Lighting / Black/White CF Steering Wheel Roundel
Alcantara-CF Flat Bottom Steering Wheel
SS Handbrake Handle/Pedals
Hardwired Valentine 1
P3Cars BMW E60 Vent Integrated Digital Interface
Custom SC Kit Color Scheme.
Mirror Fold-up / Window Roll-up / Sunroof Closure / Auto S5 at Start up / Euro Launch Control / iDrive Acceptance Delete / Rev Limiter 8600 / Top Speed Limiter Removed.
RD Sports 6 Piston F 380/35mm and 4 Piston R 380/32mm Big Brake Kit.
Soft Close Doors / HUD/ Active Seats.
The journey continues......

Dynojet 698rwhp / 498ft lb trq.
Old 60-130mph 8.29secs....new time to come.

RIDES:
2015 Jaguar F Type R, black on black
2006 BMW M5 VT2-650 low compression supercharged: 698rwhp on Dynojet.
2001 Porsche 996 Twin Turbo, GT3 rear sway bar, Rennline CF front strut bar, Tarrett drop links and toe links, GT3 control arms, BC coilovers, Sharkwerks EVOM tune, RPi exhaust, Sharkwerks sports clutch, HRE 540r wheels, K16 Billet turbos, GTRS Intercoolers: 535rwhp, 550ft lbs trq. SOLD
2004 Infiniti G35 APS Twin Turbo with built motor and fully built transmission. 520rwhp and 550ft trq. SOLD

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I have been sitting here keeping quiet about this as I know of one shop which has been working on this for almost 2 years + and still do not have a working model to show. If it was as easy as it is listed on here then I would have hoped to see a working model by now, especially after this much time.


Jim if you think you can achieve this then I will happily send you my car
The software is the key. Having access to the internal of both the mss65 and mss60 helps. Maybe we can narrow down the differences and create our own.
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Jim that is a 5 year long thread, I am not going to read the entire thing lol

ESS Supercharged VT2-650
Custom ESS Alpha N Tune
Sprint Booster V2
RPI GTS Exhaust
RPI SV1 Oil Cooler
RPI Jet Hot Coated Headers
Snow Performance Water / Methanol Injection System.
10.1:1 Low Compression Engine Build / Mahle Custom Pistons / Carrillo Rods / Custom Fuel System / Custom Rod Bearings.
KW V3 Coilovers
Dinan Rear Sway Bar / Dinan Front Roll Control / Dinan Monoballs.
Daily Setup: 3 Pc ADV.1 05 wheels F 20x9 / 255/35/20 R 20x10.5 / 295/30/20 / Michelin PSS Tires
12mm Rogue Engineering Spacers.
Track Setup: Apex Arc-8 wheels F 18x9 / Hoosier A6 P245/40ZR-18 R 18x10.5 / Hoosier A6 P315/30ZR-18.
Vorsteiner Rep Hood / Gloss Black Roof Wrap / Smoked LED Side Markers / Limo Tint
Custom Headlights with Orion V2 Rings / LCI Fins / LCI Clear Eyebrows
Custom Blacked Out LCI Tail Lights and Miranda Bruce V6.1 Cables
Hartge Rep Urethane Front Lip
AC Schnitzer Roof Spoiler
Matte Black Kidneys Grills / Gloss Black Side Gills / Gloss Black Rear M5 Emblem / Black/White CF Hood &Trunk Roundel / Rear Bumper Mesh / M5 Puddle lights
Electric Fold Away Front License Plate Frame
CF Rear Diffuser / CF Side Skirt Extensions /CF Rear Side Extensions.
White LED Interior Lighting / Black/White CF Steering Wheel Roundel
Alcantara-CF Flat Bottom Steering Wheel
SS Handbrake Handle/Pedals
Hardwired Valentine 1
P3Cars BMW E60 Vent Integrated Digital Interface
Custom SC Kit Color Scheme.
Mirror Fold-up / Window Roll-up / Sunroof Closure / Auto S5 at Start up / Euro Launch Control / iDrive Acceptance Delete / Rev Limiter 8600 / Top Speed Limiter Removed.
RD Sports 6 Piston F 380/35mm and 4 Piston R 380/32mm Big Brake Kit.
Soft Close Doors / HUD/ Active Seats.
The journey continues......

Dynojet 698rwhp / 498ft lb trq.
Old 60-130mph 8.29secs....new time to come.

RIDES:
2015 Jaguar F Type R, black on black
2006 BMW M5 VT2-650 low compression supercharged: 698rwhp on Dynojet.
2001 Porsche 996 Twin Turbo, GT3 rear sway bar, Rennline CF front strut bar, Tarrett drop links and toe links, GT3 control arms, BC coilovers, Sharkwerks EVOM tune, RPi exhaust, Sharkwerks sports clutch, HRE 540r wheels, K16 Billet turbos, GTRS Intercoolers: 535rwhp, 550ft lbs trq. SOLD
2004 Infiniti G35 APS Twin Turbo with built motor and fully built transmission. 520rwhp and 550ft trq. SOLD
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don't mine losing a little top end, I can make up for that in other ways. Just let me know when it's a good time to take a drive down you way , I can always get a flight back via the company
You foot the bill for parts and I'll do the labor for free. Not kidding. Can't promise a timeline, but the wiring, mechanicals, installation is all easy for me to conceptualize and lay out. If we get the right people involved in this, the software will be the only challenge. @BrenTuning is a mere 60 miles away and tunes the SMG mapping inside the DME. By default, he would also know how to tune the DCT maps inside the mss60 as well, so could be a very helpful here.

CAN sniffing might come into play. Fortunately, I've done a little of that too.
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You foot the bill for parts and I'll do the labor for free. Not kidding. Can't promise a timeline, but the wiring, mechanicals, installation is all easy for me to conceptualize and lay out. If we get the right people involved in this, the software will be the only challenge. @BrenTuning is a mere 60 miles away and tunes the SMG mapping inside the DME. By default, he would also know how to tune the DCT maps inside the mss60 as well, so could be a very helpful here.

CAN sniffing might come into play. Fortunately, I've done a little of that too.
As long as we do not touch the tune for the actual SC then I think I can swing it. I do have a few upgrades going on in the next month with ESS to boost the power level so maybe we should touch bases offline and get down to some figures of actual cost of parts and such. Just need a ball park figure to get a better understanding of this project. Don't worry about the timeline, I will not create a gantt chart to track this one haha!!

ESS Supercharged VT2-650
Custom ESS Alpha N Tune
Sprint Booster V2
RPI GTS Exhaust
RPI SV1 Oil Cooler
RPI Jet Hot Coated Headers
Snow Performance Water / Methanol Injection System.
10.1:1 Low Compression Engine Build / Mahle Custom Pistons / Carrillo Rods / Custom Fuel System / Custom Rod Bearings.
KW V3 Coilovers
Dinan Rear Sway Bar / Dinan Front Roll Control / Dinan Monoballs.
Daily Setup: 3 Pc ADV.1 05 wheels F 20x9 / 255/35/20 R 20x10.5 / 295/30/20 / Michelin PSS Tires
12mm Rogue Engineering Spacers.
Track Setup: Apex Arc-8 wheels F 18x9 / Hoosier A6 P245/40ZR-18 R 18x10.5 / Hoosier A6 P315/30ZR-18.
Vorsteiner Rep Hood / Gloss Black Roof Wrap / Smoked LED Side Markers / Limo Tint
Custom Headlights with Orion V2 Rings / LCI Fins / LCI Clear Eyebrows
Custom Blacked Out LCI Tail Lights and Miranda Bruce V6.1 Cables
Hartge Rep Urethane Front Lip
AC Schnitzer Roof Spoiler
Matte Black Kidneys Grills / Gloss Black Side Gills / Gloss Black Rear M5 Emblem / Black/White CF Hood &Trunk Roundel / Rear Bumper Mesh / M5 Puddle lights
Electric Fold Away Front License Plate Frame
CF Rear Diffuser / CF Side Skirt Extensions /CF Rear Side Extensions.
White LED Interior Lighting / Black/White CF Steering Wheel Roundel
Alcantara-CF Flat Bottom Steering Wheel
SS Handbrake Handle/Pedals
Hardwired Valentine 1
P3Cars BMW E60 Vent Integrated Digital Interface
Custom SC Kit Color Scheme.
Mirror Fold-up / Window Roll-up / Sunroof Closure / Auto S5 at Start up / Euro Launch Control / iDrive Acceptance Delete / Rev Limiter 8600 / Top Speed Limiter Removed.
RD Sports 6 Piston F 380/35mm and 4 Piston R 380/32mm Big Brake Kit.
Soft Close Doors / HUD/ Active Seats.
The journey continues......

Dynojet 698rwhp / 498ft lb trq.
Old 60-130mph 8.29secs....new time to come.

RIDES:
2015 Jaguar F Type R, black on black
2006 BMW M5 VT2-650 low compression supercharged: 698rwhp on Dynojet.
2001 Porsche 996 Twin Turbo, GT3 rear sway bar, Rennline CF front strut bar, Tarrett drop links and toe links, GT3 control arms, BC coilovers, Sharkwerks EVOM tune, RPi exhaust, Sharkwerks sports clutch, HRE 540r wheels, K16 Billet turbos, GTRS Intercoolers: 535rwhp, 550ft lbs trq. SOLD
2004 Infiniti G35 APS Twin Turbo with built motor and fully built transmission. 520rwhp and 550ft trq. SOLD
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...I will not create a gantt chart to track this one...
Um...I will...

It's how my brain works these days.
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Um...I will...

It's how my brain works these days.
Unfortunately mine does also especially now that I am in charge of 3 divisions at my company

ESS Supercharged VT2-650
Custom ESS Alpha N Tune
Sprint Booster V2
RPI GTS Exhaust
RPI SV1 Oil Cooler
RPI Jet Hot Coated Headers
Snow Performance Water / Methanol Injection System.
10.1:1 Low Compression Engine Build / Mahle Custom Pistons / Carrillo Rods / Custom Fuel System / Custom Rod Bearings.
KW V3 Coilovers
Dinan Rear Sway Bar / Dinan Front Roll Control / Dinan Monoballs.
Daily Setup: 3 Pc ADV.1 05 wheels F 20x9 / 255/35/20 R 20x10.5 / 295/30/20 / Michelin PSS Tires
12mm Rogue Engineering Spacers.
Track Setup: Apex Arc-8 wheels F 18x9 / Hoosier A6 P245/40ZR-18 R 18x10.5 / Hoosier A6 P315/30ZR-18.
Vorsteiner Rep Hood / Gloss Black Roof Wrap / Smoked LED Side Markers / Limo Tint
Custom Headlights with Orion V2 Rings / LCI Fins / LCI Clear Eyebrows
Custom Blacked Out LCI Tail Lights and Miranda Bruce V6.1 Cables
Hartge Rep Urethane Front Lip
AC Schnitzer Roof Spoiler
Matte Black Kidneys Grills / Gloss Black Side Gills / Gloss Black Rear M5 Emblem / Black/White CF Hood &Trunk Roundel / Rear Bumper Mesh / M5 Puddle lights
Electric Fold Away Front License Plate Frame
CF Rear Diffuser / CF Side Skirt Extensions /CF Rear Side Extensions.
White LED Interior Lighting / Black/White CF Steering Wheel Roundel
Alcantara-CF Flat Bottom Steering Wheel
SS Handbrake Handle/Pedals
Hardwired Valentine 1
P3Cars BMW E60 Vent Integrated Digital Interface
Custom SC Kit Color Scheme.
Mirror Fold-up / Window Roll-up / Sunroof Closure / Auto S5 at Start up / Euro Launch Control / iDrive Acceptance Delete / Rev Limiter 8600 / Top Speed Limiter Removed.
RD Sports 6 Piston F 380/35mm and 4 Piston R 380/32mm Big Brake Kit.
Soft Close Doors / HUD/ Active Seats.
The journey continues......

Dynojet 698rwhp / 498ft lb trq.
Old 60-130mph 8.29secs....new time to come.

RIDES:
2015 Jaguar F Type R, black on black
2006 BMW M5 VT2-650 low compression supercharged: 698rwhp on Dynojet.
2001 Porsche 996 Twin Turbo, GT3 rear sway bar, Rennline CF front strut bar, Tarrett drop links and toe links, GT3 control arms, BC coilovers, Sharkwerks EVOM tune, RPi exhaust, Sharkwerks sports clutch, HRE 540r wheels, K16 Billet turbos, GTRS Intercoolers: 535rwhp, 550ft lbs trq. SOLD
2004 Infiniti G35 APS Twin Turbo with built motor and fully built transmission. 520rwhp and 550ft trq. SOLD
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