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post #1 of 57 Old 7th September 2004, 06:51 PM Thread Starter
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No Dipstick?

Just read in Motor Trend that the E60 M5 won't have a dipstick (like the 1er I hear)....

what's up with that? I know computers can do it but what about as a failsafe?

Hell, the car costs $90,000, a dipstick is a minor cost.

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post #2 of 57 Old 7th September 2004, 07:20 PM
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Re: No Dipstick?

If its like the CSL then it does actually have a dipstick its just that its not accessible without removing engine covers etc. Instead you get a reading on the computer which according to experience so far is pretty accurate. Must adnit still prefer the dipstick but guess that is progress!!

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Re: No Dipstick?

Back in 1988 my father bought a new Rolls Royce Silver Spirit. It had a dipstick but also an "oil level" meter on the dash. Simply press a button and the sump level was displayed - no dirty hands

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Re: No Dipstick?

Yes, if you look at the picture of the engine parts all layed out together ( from the official picture release ) you will see there is no dipstick anywhere

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Re: No Dipstick?

Think how much you rely on computers in a modern car like the M5 (such as CBC, DSC, SMG, airbags, etc etc.) which are critical and oil level should be least of your safety worries.

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Just read in Motor Trend that the E60 M5 won't have a dipstick (like the 1er I hear)....


what's up with that? I know computers can do it but what about as a failsafe?

Hell, the car costs $90,000, a dipstick is a minor cost.
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Re: No Dipstick?

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Think how much you rely on computers in a modern car like the M5 (such as CBC, DSC, SMG, airbags, etc etc.) which are critical and oil level should be least of your safety worries.

I agree, but maybe it's the engineer in me that likes a manual backup.

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Re: No Dipstick?

I went to check the oil in our new SL55 and.... no dipstick?!!!! WTF?!

This caused me to post the following over at MB World:

http://forums.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=80597

I've since spoken with the head of the service department at my MB dealer and they swear the computer checker works fine.

I agree with the others, when considered against what else can go on, I do not think this is such a big deal, but when considered in the abstract, it seems a little crazy.

Btw- you should see the tool MB uses as a dipstick- it looks like something you'd use to snake a drain when clogged. Then you need to compare your reading to a chart. I figure Ill just check the computer- and if the engine is too recently driven, the computer tells you to "observe the cool down period". Gotta love technology. "No Soup for You!" (or oil as the case may be )

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Re: No Dipstick?

When I think about the oil consumption of my M5 E39 (approx. 1Lt. per 1'500km) the digital display would make it much more easier.

I anyway hope the new engine will be more relieable - with a less oil thirst. I will miss it to check the oil on every single pit stop!!!

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Re: No Dipstick?

I suspect that they did some sort of analysis, survey etc where they found out that too few people actually checked their oil regularly to be worth the cost! Instead spent the money on improving the reliability of the electronics.

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Re: No Dipstick?

I noticed this on the first posted pictures of the engine. It's not surprising, if you do a google search on oil level sensors, there are lots out there now. On the other hand, how do you know if the engine "I need oil now" light is going to come on when you're on the track, accelerating at full throttle, or braking at 1.2G's? If you're headed for a track day, how do you know that the engine is full before you go?

Lets hope they thought this through from an M-customer standpoint, and didn't just listen to some salesman selling electronic gadgets.

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