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        Old 2nd February 2004, 02:37   #1 (permalink)
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        M loose the tuch?

        Hi guys,

        I find my self thinking when I sit here in my own,

        Doesen´t the M-series loose their special feeling and tuch
        when they plane or think of planing all the M-series

        U have now as in right now:

        M1
        M2
        M3
        M5
        M6

        Where does it stops? What about own a M car does this
        long list makes u special?

        Just a thought

        Glad to hear your coment

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        Old 2nd February 2004, 06:42   #2 (permalink)
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        Re: M loose the tuch?

        Quote:
        Originally Posted by Matte
        Hi guys,

        I find my self thinking when I sit here in my own,

        Doesen´t the M-series loose their special feeling and tuch
        when they plane or think of planing all the M-series

        U have now as in right now:

        M1
        M2
        M3
        M5
        M6

        Where does it stops? What about own a M car does this
        long list makes u special?

        Just a thought

        Glad to hear your coment

        Best Regards
        Matte
        there's also the M coupe and M roadster before.
        special feeling compare to what?
        the original M1 was a supercar of the old days and it was a limited production vehicle, not a sup-up'ed generic model.

        each M car is supposed to be special, being the top of the line among the more pedestrian models.

        however, all in all, so far these M cars are not disappointing or boring. to make things more special for those with higher demands, for the M3 they tried the CSL; alternatively for the Z8, BMW tried Alpina for the US to test the market.

        i think you answer your question - where does it stop. the answer is M7. however, i am sure if they had built them, there will be buyers.
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        Old 2nd February 2004, 07:20   #3 (permalink)
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        Re: M loose the tuch?

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        there's also the M coupe and M roadster before.
        special feeling compare to what?
        the original M1 was a supercar of the old days and it was a limited production vehicle, not a sup-up'ed generic model.

        each M car is supposed to be special, being the top of the line among the more pedestrian models.

        however, all in all, so far these M cars are not disappointing or boring. to make things more special for those with higher demands, for the M3 they tried the CSL; alternatively for the Z8, BMW tried Alpina for the US to test the market.

        i think you answer your question - where does it stop. the answer is M7. however, i am sure if they had built them, there will be buyers.
        an M version of Rolls-Royce Phantom would be the end
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        Old 2nd February 2004, 09:24   #4 (permalink)
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        Re: M loose the tuch?

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        an M version of Rolls-Royce Phantom would be the end
        Let's hope it never comes to that ....
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        Old 2nd February 2004, 09:37   #5 (permalink)
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        Re: M loose the tuch?

        you never know... don't they have a convertible coming out based on that?
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        Old 2nd February 2004, 14:21   #6 (permalink)
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        Re: M loose the tuch?

        I do not believe M has lost their touch. Having more M models than before is just a function of success. They might not be as focused on 1 model, say as with the E30 M3, but they are still great cars. Besides, the M1 & M2 you cite are not really announced and the M3 will be joined by a M4 and the M5 and M6 are still a little time off- so right now we just have the E46 M3 to tide us over. Thats a great car too.
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        Old 2nd February 2004, 14:26   #7 (permalink)
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        Re: M loose the tuch?

        Quote:
        Originally Posted by Matte
        Hi guys,

        I find my self thinking when I sit here in my own,

        Doesen´t the M-series loose their special feeling and tuch
        when they plane or think of planing all the M-series

        U have now as in right now:

        M1
        M2
        M3
        M5
        M6

        Where does it stops? What about own a M car does this
        long list makes u special?

        Just a thought

        Glad to hear your coment

        Best Regards
        Matte

        What do you mean?
        M1 doesn´t exist as a current model, it was a supercar from the 70´s.
        M3,M5 and M6, have existed as models almost 20 years each with only minor breaks. So the only addition is the maybe coming M2.
        The only threat, that I can think of,to the special feeling of owning a M car is the shear number of produced cars in each model line. Ie yu don´t feel special if there´s an M3 in every corner when youre driwing one.

        Just my 2c
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        Old 2nd February 2004, 14:50   #8 (permalink)
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        Re: M loose the tuch?

        For me I don't consider M cars to be that special. Ok hold the flames. Yes they are special in that they represent the top of the model range for BMW and are a great achievement in performance and driving dynamics over the standard model range. But on the other hand they aren't supposed to be ultra rare limited edition production models. With perhaps the exception of the CSL.
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        Old 2nd February 2004, 16:27   #9 (permalink)
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        Re: M loose the tuch?

        The M division has staked out a really nice position between normal upper-end performance sedans and the specialty cars and exotics. They are about as performance oriented as you can get a be a good daily driver, practical in terms of capacity, luxurious and relatively affordable. BMW has created an important niche that is unique in the industry and that I personally love.

        Tom

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        Old 2nd February 2004, 17:53   #10 (permalink)
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        Re: M loose the tuch?

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        The M division has staked out a really nice position between normal upper-end performance sedans and the specialty cars and exotics. They are about as performance oriented as you can get a be a good daily driver, practical in terms of capacity, luxurious and relatively affordable. BMW has created an important niche that is unique in the industry and that I personally love.

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        Tom,

        I totally agree with you.

        Also remember that they were the inspiration and the start of two (rather succesfull) F1 projects and that the division already (co)produced two supercars: the M1 and the McLaren F1.
        Two cars that are still among the best imho.

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        Old 2nd February 2004, 18:14   #11 (permalink)
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        Re: M loose the tuch?

        On the rolls note, i also think we are lucky we havent seen an M7....

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        Old 2nd February 2004, 19:04   #12 (permalink)
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