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DIS Clutch Adaptation DIY with screenshots

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Before starting the clutch adaptation make sure you drive the car until the drivetrain is warmed up.

After starting DIS, click Diagnosis:

Then choose 5 Series and E60/E61 and click the right green arrow:

Click OK:

Click Yes:

Click the right green arrow:

Choose Yes or No and click OK:

Click Function selection:

Click Service functions>Drive>SMG gearbox control>Service functions>Replacement and repair and then click Test schedule:

Click the right green arrow:

Choose 2 and click the right green arrow:

Choose 4 and click the right green arrow:

Choose 1 to start part one of the adaptation and click the right green arrow:

Do as instructed and then choose Yes and click the right green arrow. It will run through the first step of the adaptation and then give before and after values. If it asks about saving the new values choose OK/Yes. When the test is finished you should wind up at the screen with the three test options again.

Choose 2 and click the right green arrow and you'll reach the screen below. Do as instructed and choose Yes and click the right green arrow. It will run through the second step of the adaptation and then give before and after values. If it asks about saving the new values choose OK/Yes. When the test is finished you should wind up at the screen with the three test options again.


Choose 3 and click the right green arrow and you'll reach the screen below. Do as instructed and choose Yes and click the right green arrow. It will run through the third step of the adaptation and then give before and after values. If it asks about saving the new values choose OK/Yes. When the test is finished you should wind up at the screen with the three test options again.

At this point you are done adapting your clutch. Choose 4 and click the right green arrow, then choose 5 and click the right green arrow, and then click the right green arrow again to return to the test schedule. You can terminate the session by clicking End>Quit and then clicking Terminate.

The clutch adaptation process can cause error codes to be stored. I used INPA to clear these errors. Prior to doing that I received an increased emissions error when I started the car.
 
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#2 ·
big thanks for this, I will be trying to tonight to try and remove my failed adaptation in INPA, will post with results!
 
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#5 ·
does anyone know that if by doing this recalibration, that if it will reset the oil service interval?

When I did it, I noticed my oil change interval went from 3000 miles to 15000 miles. Odd.
 
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I've been trying to summon the nerve to do this since I purchased the BM Technic software & cable, but have been hesitant to take the leap.
However, now armed with Inferno's excellent DIY with screenshots, I'm feeling like the guy at the bar who's confidence has been boosted by 4 beers.
Before I get too fat headed, will there be any difference in the adaptation process if my beast's SMG is Euro flashed? I think the answer is no, but sometimes thinking is what gets me in trouble in the first place.
 
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#7 ·
should not be any problems or differences with a euro tune
 
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#9 ·
Clutch! Adaptation Active

The DIY was written so nicely that I could not resist to give it a try today. However things did not go so well for me. After I initiated the Teach-in clutch valve characteristic values(step 1 of 3-step adaptation process), and clicked on Yes on the following page to start the teach-in, I immediately got a red-cog(Clutch! Adaptation Active)! I started over a couple of times and got the same result.

I then tried to delete the error code with DIS, but without any success.

Here are my questions:
1. Shall I turn off engine to perform the adaptation process?
2. Is there any way to remove the 'Clutch Adaptation Active' msg?
3. Can the car be driven under this error condition?

I will upload the error msg screen shot in a bit.
 
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#12 ·
Yes, car was on level ground, but I am pretty sure it is NOT in the state of "N" and ignition "ON" with engine not running. I actually had engine running until one of steps specifically called for 'engine OFF'. Not sure if turning off the engine in the middle of the process would cause any damage?
Also, I do not have a battery charger.

Shall I start this over? Do I have to get a battery charge before doing it?

Thanks, Bro!
 
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#13 ·
Disengagement position outside tolerance

With new way, N + ignition on + engine off, I was getting a different error now while going through teach-in process:
"Disengagement position is outside tolerance on the clutch valve"

At least, it is something different. Just ordered a battery charger and will start over with adaptation process.
 
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#14 ·
Sophie said:
With new way, N + ignition on + engine off, I was getting a different error now while going through teach-in process:
"Disengagement position is outside tolerance on the clutch valve"

At least, it is something different. Just ordered a battery charger and will start over with adaptation process.
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WTF.......u are now the 3rd person to get this error on this board. INCLUDING ME!

My car is just sitting at home now, dont know what to do!
 
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#22 ·
Clutch needs to be replaced

The diagnosis was done and the result is not good. The SA called and told me the technician could not get the car out of 'Clutch adaptation active' mode with the error code, 4F67. Clutch replacement(not including flywheel) was suggested and quoted as $2600 before tax. Ouch!
 
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#23 ·
Sophie said:
The diagnosis was done and the result is not good. The SA called and told me the technician could not get the car out of 'Clutch adaptation active' mode with the error code, 4F67. Clutch replacement(not including flywheel) was suggested and quoted as $2600 before tax. Ouch!
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Are you still on the original clutch? What is your mileage?

I would be very surprised if replacing the clutch solved this problem. I doubt the adaptation will complete even after.
 
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#30 ·
Ok, so I tried the DIS Adapt over the weekend, and got a communication SMG Control, and voltage issue. (And yes, the car was connected to a 14.2 volt power supply)
I then went into INPA, and went thru all the actions with the SMG Control. Ie, gear change, and position readings, clutch position readings and ect.
I do have a contact who was one of the software engineers for the M team for the E60 model, and he was able to teamviewer into the laptop, and check it out. Problems are with my software version of DIS, and the cars firmware. Mine is a 07, and that was the year that wiring and communication systems were being updated. I do not think the car has Flex Ray (God I hope not) but we are going to try to flash all the modules this coming weekend. I'll try to capture some screen shots, of the errors, and then what we did. (And yes, I know I am luck Ba@$$$ for having this contact. For once, I can be thankful my job gave me some contacts that are useful !!) :)
Also, if you can capture any pics of the Hydraulic valve, please post them. I can ask who the supplier was that made it, and see if we can source out of our EU operations.
 
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#35 ·
I think another way to explain this might be...
When DIS gives the command for the valve to move, it has to reach a position. Then, based on a table, it is either in the good or bad range. As mentioned above, the valves are complex, (but not the most in Hydraulic systems) and over time, the spools begin to leak, which causes a delay on how the valves acts. This translates into a missed shift, or the controller not seeing what it expected. Think of the adapt routine like a computer boot up. Bios expects certain things, when they don't happen, the controller starts throwing errors..
 
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#38 ·
Correct, the zero current position (deenergized spring return) for the clutch valve is to dump the slave cylinder. However, the next position vents the slave as well as pressurized the PWV port for the shift valves. I believe this is the position the adaptation is referring to when it says "disengagement value is beyond specification". I believe the o-ring which isolates that vent port maybe leaking by ever so slightly. You would never notice this during normal operation as clutch operation is significantly faster than when running the adaptation routine and trying to calibrate that exact break over position to vent the slave down to a gnat's ***. Combine with the fact that the adaptation routine raises SMG fluid pressure to a higher point than is normally seen during operation, it wouldn't surprise me that an internal leak is more likely to show up. Imagine conducting a hydrostatic test on a hydraulic system at 125% pressure from what's its seen for the last 7 years.


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#40 ·
i am going to say that it can be the clutch slave as well. if the clutch slave is worn, the clutch position sensor will read that its out of range as well. a member on here fixed his adaption problem by changing the clutch slave.

anyhow, if my tranny is dropped to fix my adaption problem. i will change out the clutch slave, hydro unit and the clutch release bearing along with the guide bush.
 
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#44 ·
For now, I am going to have them replace clutch, guide bushing, and solenoid valve. They offer me 10% discount off labor and parts. Considering the 2-year warranty I am going to get from them if I source everything from them and the time will take to get all the parts from everywhere else, I made the decision.

The only unknown is flywheel. If that needs to be replaced, they quote me $2000 for the part only. That will change the entire thing. I will change to source everything myself.

As for clutch slave, I brought it up to them. According to the tech, I would have known it already if the slave is bad(a different error code).
 
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#47 ·
I ended up not having the car repaired at the dealer as I was upset about their indifferent and could-not-care-less attitude. I turned the car in last Wed and authorized them to dropped the tranny on the same day in an hope to get the car back on Friday. That was the promise the SA gave to me and that was the only reason I agreed to proceed with repair at the dealer. I committed $4k for that.

When I checked with them again on Thursday morning, nothing happened and they then promised that the work would start in the afternoon.
When I called the SA on the way home after work on Thursday evening and asked for the latest. He told me the tech has been busy and was not expecting to work on my car until Friday. I then asked him if they could complete the work at all on the same day if they waited until the last day. The SA responded with 'I don't know. depends on what he runs into'. This response totally turned off any hope I had with having the car properly repaired by the dealer.

Throughout the communications I had with the dealer, they never initiated a call or an email to me. The only way I could get anything out of them is to keep calling them. The entire thing is like I pay them handsomely and they are doing me a big favor.

Sorry, dealer, I just can't take that...
 
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#48 ·
I ordered Clutch kit and Flywheel from bimmerzone and the solenoid valve from getbmwparts. Hopefully, that would be enough.

The car is sitting in my garage now and waiting to be towed to Texas Track Works a week from now. I plan to take one day off from work so that I can take some notes and some pics while they are working on my car.

This is all the updates i have now. Will keep them coming in the next week or two.
 
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