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DIY - Changing the S85 VANOS solenoids

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Changing the VANOS solenoids.

Here's my report/DIY about changing the VANOS solenoids. Big thanks to everyone (especially b767capt) who help me to do this by my own.

I ran a VANOS test few weeks ago and the report said that three out of four solenoids are NOT OK and they need to be changed. The test gives an index to every solenoid, and the best value is 1.0. As you can conclude, the limit between the "OK" and "NOT OK" is the 0.6.
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While I was preparing for the job, I modded this holder for a TORX T20 key which is needed to remove the solenoids. The advice for this came from the member b767capt
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All systems are go!
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At first a covering plate must be removed. It is hold in place with nine TORX T30 bolts (red/orange arrows). I also removed the hood latches to get this plate a bit further than a feet away lol! The hood latches are also hold in place with TORX T30 bolts (green circles). When these have been removed, the covering plate can be removed towards the big orange arrows.
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The hood latch cables and detector wiring goes under the plate and they must be released from the little hooks.
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Then we have to remove another covering plate that sits on top of the radiator and the electric fan. Five TORX T25 screws.
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There are two little water hoses that are attached to the cowl with different clips. Detach them.
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Oh crap!
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The fan can be removed by lifting it a bit, then the "wings" on left and right have to be turned away from the holders. Then lift the fan up. I broke the other wing to get the fan easier out next time
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The power cord is easy to remove (yellow circle). Then put the fan aside. TIS says there can be two cords attached but I had only one.
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To drain the coolant I removed the little service flap on the bottom of the right front corner. It is fastened with typical undercarriage screws (M8).
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The S85 radiator is divided to two sections, one for both cylinder banks. Therefore there's two draining plugs in it. As b767capt adviced, I installed draining tubes on both of them. The inner diameter is 9.3mm. I used strong fuel line for this purpose so that I can leave them installed for the next time. The lower draining plug can be seen in this picture.
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And here's the upper one with the tube attached. Here you can also see the wire clamp that holds the big water hose in place and the little water hose that is attached with the typical hose clamp. There are four big water hoses and two smaller and these have to be removed after draining the coolant.
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Here are the draining hoses. It is easy to drain the coolant through these without messing the whole engine bay.
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Draining itself is easy. First open up the fill cap, then open the red finger screws.


The radiator then comes up only by lifting it.
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This is the room you will have for working with the solenoids.
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The most annoying job is to remove the solenoids. First the electric plugs need to be removed (In this pic they have been removed already.Green circle.). They're easy, but you may want to mark them so that you don't mix them when plugging them back in. The solenoids are held in place with two TORX T20 screws each, and the other screw is hiding (yellow arrow). I used a friend, mirror, flashlight and different T20 tools to open them. The solenoids can sit a bit tight in their place, so I needed to put a little screwdriver between the VANOS body and the solenoid and simply crank them out slowly. By the way, the new solenoids are already installed this picture. The old ones were plastic covered, the new ones are metallic.
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Solenoids removed. There will be some oil coming out of VANOS, clean it.
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Here's the new one. First lubricate the O-rings with motor oil. Then install the bigger O-ring on the bottom of the VANOS body. There's a place for it. Then put the solenoid back. I didn't try to push it to bottom with force. I just used the screws to get it sit tight.
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Then you need to put everything back in opposite order. The coolant system is pretty smart, you just need to fill the coolant in until the bobber sits 18mm over the fill cap edge. Then the system bleeds itself when the engine is run approx. 15mins on idle.


The VANOS oil system needs bleeding too. I did this with the DIS (Vanos ventilation/bleeding). The program runs the engine for 18mins and varies the rpms. Interesting sounds can be heard during the process :lol:.
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Everything went great and after the bleeding procedure I ran the VANOS test again. Here are the results.
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- Antti -
 
#3 ·
Beautiful DIY write-up Antti!

-TZ
 
#4 ·
Great DIY and pics!!! Thanks!
 
#7 ·
Nice writeup. This is next on my list. Curious if you noticed any reduction in vanos noise coming from the engine bay with the new solenoids in place?
 
#10 ·
I also want to know this
 
#8 ·
Can you post the solenoid part numbers?
 
#11 ·
Thanks guys!

I had some excessive noise coming from the bank 1 VANOS before, and that went away. As you can notice, both the inlet and exhaust solenoids on that bank were bad according to the test. The overall sound of the VANOSes smoothened a bit.
I took sound clips before and after, I just have to check them if the difference can be heard.

Raikku: I knew someone would mention about the hammer :D !

- Antti -
 
#14 ·
Notice any slight change in performance at all?

Really thinking I should pickup a laptop and some software to not only run the test on the solenoids but to also be able to run the bleeding procedure. What software/hardware setup are you running to run your tests?
 
#22 · (Edited)
Thanks Mighty5 :).

My car has 56700 miles in clock.

A realistic time for the job is around 3-4 hours. Of course if you have removed these different parts before then it is quicker.
It took me some time longer because I didn't have the most suitable Torx T20 tool to remove the solenoid screws. I had T20 size tools, but some of them were too thick on the foot and others were too long :rolleyes:. The best size and shape for this tool is the b767capt's "modified" model:
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- Antti -
 
#23 ·
i changed the solenoids today on a 2006 m5 !

Before we changed it it was 0,34 , 0,29,0,22,0,39 vanos solenoids !

When we replaced it with new 4 solenoids this numbers doenst changed !
I called my friend who is working for bmw m in munich and he said this test from the solenoids is silly .. and not important. The important thing is that your vanos control works with the right ms ! (sorry i cant say it in english ^^ ) and you pass the test with everything ok !
When you read out your car in 2-3 Months later it can be that your dis shows that your new solenoids are bad too !

I passed the test with everything ok and when the vanos works i got a number of 0,85 to all 4 solenoids.
 
#29 ·
i changed the solenoids today on a 2006 m5 !

Before we changed it it was 0,34 , 0,29,0,22,0,39 vanos solenoids !

When we replaced it with new 4 solenoids this numbers doenst changed !
I called my friend who is working for bmw m in munich and he said this test from the solenoids is silly .. and not important. The important thing is that your vanos control works with the right ms ! (sorry i cant say it in english ^^ ) and you pass the test with everything ok !
When you read out your car in 2-3 Months later it can be that your dis shows that your new solenoids are bad too !

I passed the test with everything ok and when the vanos works i got a number of 0,85 to all 4 solenoids.
If you could help out I would appreciate it a LOT!!! I keep getting these codes, with no check engine light unless extremely cold outside.... I did the Vanos test, and it comes back saying that all four Solenoids are bad. Could that be the reason for these codes?? If that test is truly insignificant? Thanks!

27B6:
VANOS oil pressure
Error will cause a warning light
Error is not currently present
Test conditions have been completed
Timeout

271A:
VANOS control inlet bank 1
Error will cause a warning light
Error is not currently present
Test conditions have been completed
Short circuit or signal interruption

271C:
VANOS control inlet bank 2
Error will cause a warning light
Error is not currently present
Test conditions have been completed
Short circuit or signal interruption<!-- google_ad_section_end -->
 
#25 ·
Added to DIY sticky, thanks
 
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#30 ·
People have been asking about how the bleeding procedure and/or vanos test can be ran out with the DIS. Here's the instructions:

1) At the first screen, after the car has been recognized, you need to select the DME Motor Electronics. The DIS asks if the Individual Quick test should be carried out. Press OK. After this the DME is selected (blacked out).
2) Next press the Forward arrow on the lower right corner. Answer the possible questions, like Does the car have an AHM Trailer Module (No).
3) Now you should be in a Diagnosis Symptom selection screen. Press Function Selection on the lower left corner.
4) Now you should be in a Diagnosis Function and Component selection screen. Choose Service Functions in the Functions list.
5) Choose Drive.
6) Then Motor Electronics.
7) Now, on the Motor Electronics list, choose VANOS ventilation.
8) On the next list, choose again VANOS ventilation.
9) Then press Test Schedule on the bottom of the screen. Ask the possible short test question No.
10) Now you're in a Diagnosis Test schedule and you can see the VANOS ventilation on the schedule list. Press the Forward arrow on the lower right corner.
11) Now the DIS tells you about the VANOS bleeding procedure on the lower right part of the screen. Press Forward arrow.
12) Now you can select, if the Bleeding or VANOS test should be run. Choose the number 1 or 2. Then forward. Follow the instructions.
12) Now the test or bleeding should be run and end with results.

- Antti -