After doing months of combing the forums and seeking the wise counsel of my trusted mechanics, I recently purchased and had installed the DINAN 3.91 Limited Slip Differential by the fine folks at Autohaus Frankfurt in Murrieta, CA. I am simply in awe of the improvement in low end torque and acceleration. As awesome as the M5 is, I like many, always felt that it was lacking in the low end torque department. Upon leaving the shop with it newly installed, I was like "wow, now this is special". This was in P400 mode too, no M button, no S5 or S6 or DSC off either and I was so impressed. As you can imagine I just had to press my M button just to see what it will feel like and man the beast is a whole another animal now! It is just amazing and I'm enjoying the car to a whole new level now and nearly all of my driving thus far for the break in period has been in P400 mode. As another member noted in a earlier review, P400 mode feels like P500 and press the M button, it's really insane now. When I backed into the garage like I normally do when I got home, I no kidding almost drove through the garage and into the house as I had forgotten I had the diff in and all the extra torque! That was one of the eye opening moments for me thus far. There is definitely a noticeable increase in torque and acceleration. Just in P400 mode around town it just so effortlessly pulls away now. Just doing a little drive around some little twisties near where I live, I couldn't believe how enjoyable it was in P400 mode when I would normally have the M button pressed. The tough part now is the 1200 mi break in period which consists of basically no WOT, and nothing over 5500 RPM's or 105 mph. Just pretty much taking it easy. My mechanics did recommend that the more turns, the better for helping breaking in the diff. It's actually kind of funny cruising around town just trying to put some miles on it so I can get those break in miles in. After 1200 mi you go back and get the diff fluid flushed and replaced with BMW's special diff fluid and then you can really go have some fun. So I'll follow up with another review after I get past the break in period. I, like many, give a lot of thought and do a lot of research before I do any performance mods for my M5. I can (so far) attest with DINAN stating that the 3.91 diff is the best bang for the buck mod for improving immediate acceleration for the M5. Now it's off to finish getting in my break in miles (1095 mi more) before MFest VI in Vegas on Apr 20!
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Interior
BMWpedals ///M pedals, Valentine 1 Radar/Laser detector hardwired, Dension 500 Gateway and Specdock Iphone Dock, Black BMW steering wheel emblem, Bavarian Soundwerks BSW Stage 1 speaker upgrade, Trinity Autosport Interior LED lighting, Formula 1 Pinnacle Tint
Exterior
DINAN badge (matte black), Matte Black Front Grill, Matte Black Side Grills, Matte Black ///M Badge, MTECH V3 High Powered LED Angel Eyes, Trinity AutoSport Smoked LED Side Markers, Trinity AutoSport Black BMW Roundels and wheel caps, WeissLicht Xenon LED License Plate lights, Bumper Plugs, H&R Track Plus spacers, ///M valve stem caps
Performance
DINAN 3.91 Limited Slip Differential, DINAN Stage III Engine Performance Software, DINAN Stage II Suspension System, DINAN High Flow Middle Racing Exhaust with 3.5" resonators (secondary cat delete), DINAN Free Flow Exhaust (matte black tips), DINAN High Flow Air Mass Meter/Intakes, DINAN Carbon Fiber Rear Shock Tower Brace, Sprint booster V2, Hawk HPS Brake Pads, Stoptech Stainless Steel Brake Lines, EvoSport Power Performance Pulley, RPi SVI Oil Cooler, RPi Ram Air Induction Scoops (black), OEM charcoal filter delete, Track four wheel alignment to DINAN Stage II suspension specs, Michelin Pilot Sport 2s
BMW Personalization Coding
Removed seatbelt chime, close windows with comfort access, disable Idrive disclaimer, fold mirrors with comfort access, fuel reserve warning 1/8th tank, removed speed correction factor, amber corner eyes delete, close windows with FOB, digital speedometer, fold mirrors with FOB, turn signals in HUD, Euro Flash-To-Pass (Xenon)
Events
BMW Performance Driving School 2 day M School Jul 2011
California Speedway Fontana NASA High Performance Driving Event Jul 2011
Targa Trophy Rally 2012 #3 LA-Vegas
"Don't Just Drive Fast...Drive Well" BMW Performance Driving School M School Instructor
I've been strongly considering this modification for a long time. Neil (LI-M5) always tells me this is the one mod I am missing and I think he is right. I'm really curious to hear your review after the 1200 mile break in. Keep us posted!
Do you hear any whining from the diff? There were a lot of complaints about a whining noise which is the main reason I haven't done this.
From my understanding Dinan used a different manufacturer for the internal of the diff which causes the whine but that issue as been rectified. Gustavs post on the issue down below!
Thanks for the review YK!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gustav
Did you read this:
Important update.
I have just got an mail from Steve Dinan himself, after I e-mailed them in general. Dinan is a Sponsor of m5board.com and m6board.com.
I quote below:
"We ran out for a short period of time so we purchase 14 gears from BMW Motorsport. These are the ones that made noise. We now have our gears on the shelf and would be happy to warrant the differential for anyone who is having a noise issue. The BMW gears are good quality they are just louder than ours. Our gears are lapped so they are quite. This basically means we run the gears against each other with lapping compound. This polishes the gears and reduces friction and noise. "
End of quote.
So for you people who have issues: contact Dinan, send them regards from Gustav and m5board.com and refeer to this thread if anything is unsure. That is if you want Dinan differentials instead if BMW M GmBh ones
Do you have a pre dyno as I would like to know what kind of trq you gained from this mod. Like John said I have kept my distance due to the compliants of the whine but if you can let us know after the break in period has been complete that would be great.
Handling:KW V3 Coilovers / Dinan Rear Sway Bar / Dinan Front Roll Control / Tires F 255/35/19 R 285/30/19 / 12mm Rogue Engineering Spacers / 19x9/19x10.5, 3 Pc Rennen R8 Concave Wheels (Matte black face with chromed lip)
Exterior:Vorsteiner Rep Hood / Gloss Black Roof Wrap / Matte Azure Blue Metallic Car Wrap / Smoked LED Side Markers, Limo Tint / Custom headlights with Orion V2 rings / Custom Blacked Out LCI Tail lights and Miranda Bruce V 6 Cables / Hartge Rep Urethane Front Lip / AC Schnitzer Roof Spoiler / Matte Black Kidneys Grills / Gloss Black Side Gills / Gloss Black Rear M5 Emblem / Black/White CF Hood &Trunk Roundel / Rear Bumper Mesh, M5 Puddle lights, QTP 2.5 Electric Cutouts
Interior:White LED Interior Lighting / Black/White CF Steering Wheel Roundel / Aluminium Steering Wheel Trim / Handbrake Handle/Pedals /Hardwired Valentine 1, P3Cars BMW E60 Vent Integrated Digital Interface
Programming:Mirror Fold-up / Window Roll-up / Sunroof Closure / Auto S5 at Start up / Euro Launch Control / iDrive Acceptance Delete
Braking:RDSports 6 Piston F 380/35mm and 4 Piston R 380/32mm Big Brake Kit
In Process V3:
Low Compression Engine Builld:
Mahle Custom Pistons
Carrillo Rods
Howerton Engineering - Aquamist HFS-3 Injection System
Custom Fuel System
Custom Alpha N Tune
Custom SC Kit Color Scheme
Future V4 plan coming soon........
Wants:JME Rear Diffuser
MAHA Dyno 570rwhp 400trq 60-130mph 8.29secs
RIDES:
2004 Infiniti G35 APS TT with built motor and fully built transmission. 520rwhp and 550ft trq.
Meisterscahft Section 1 Pipes
Meisterschaft Section 2 X-Pipe
Eisenmann-Race Section 3 Cans
Eurocharged ECU Tune
Evosport Power Pulley
BC-Racing Coilovers
Stoptech SS Brake Lines
Stoptech Street Brake Pads
ATE Super Blue Brake Fluid
M Sprint Booster V2
Simota CF CAI
RPi Scoops Wheels/Tires:
20" Varrstoen ES1
Hankook V12 Evo
TMS Spacers
Rolled Fenders
Gloss Black Calipers
M Caliper Decals Exterior:
Hamann Painted Splitter
Custom Black Extension Lip
Hartge Painted Diffuser
Custom Rear Bumper Grille
Gloss Black Sideskirt Extebsions
Gloss Black OEM Grilles
Gloss Black Side Gills
Gloss Black Vinyl Roof
Gloss Black M5 Emblem
Gloss Black/White BMW Roundels Interior:
Alcantara E-brake/SMG Boots
Alcantara/Perforated Leather Wheel
Alcantara Steering Wheel Trim
Alcantara Full Headliner
CF 3M Di-Noc Trim Wrap
CF Steering Emblem
CF Door Pins Lighting:
Custom Painted Headlights
Orion V2's/Euro Reflectors
OEM LCI Euro Taillights
V6.1 Bruce Cables
Full LED Interior Lights
LED Clear Side Makers
LED License Plate Lights
LED Reverse Lights
Solaris Invisi-Bulbs
6000k HID Bulbs
Currently 465whp Dynojet
_______________ Mikelll M5
After doing months of combing the forums and seeking the wise counsel of my trusted mechanics, I recently purchased and had installed the DINAN 3.91 Limited Slip Differential by the fine folks at Autohaus Frankfurt in Murrieta, CA. I am simply in awe of the improvement in low end torque and acceleration. As awesome as the M5 is, I like many, always felt that it was lacking in the low end torque department. Upon leaving the shop with it newly installed, I was like "wow, now this is special". This was in P400 mode too, no M button, no S5 or S6 or DSC off either and I was so impressed. As you can imagine I just had to press my M button just to see what it will feel like and man the beast is a whole another animal now! It is just amazing and I'm enjoying the car to a whole new level now and nearly all of my driving thus far for the break in period has been in P400 mode. As another member noted in a earlier review, P400 mode feels like P500 and press the M button, it's really insane now. When I backed into the garage like I normally do when I got home, I no kidding almost drove through the garage and into the house as I had forgotten I had the diff in and all the extra torque! That was one of the eye opening moments for me thus far. There is definitely a noticeable increase in torque and acceleration. Just in P400 mode around town it just so effortlessly pulls away now. Just doing a little drive around some little twisties near where I live, I couldn't believe how enjoyable it was in P400 mode when I would normally have the M button pressed. The tough part now is the 1200 mi break in period which consists of basically no WOT, and nothing over 5500 RPM's or 105 mph. Just pretty much taking it easy. My mechanics did recommend that the more turns, the better for helping breaking in the diff. It's actually kind of funny cruising around town just trying to put some miles on it so I can get those break in miles in. After 1200 mi you go back and get the diff fluid flushed and replaced with BMW's special diff fluid and then you can really go have some fun. So I'll follow up with another review after I get past the break in period. I, like many, give a lot of thought and do a lot of research before I do any performance mods for my M5. I can (so far) attest with DINAN stating that the 3.91 diff is the best bang for the buck mod for improving immediate acceleration for the M5. Now it's off to finish getting in my break in miles (1095 mi more) before MFest VI in Vegas on Apr 20!
I love my Dinan 3.91. You will be spinning well into 2nd looking for traction.
Let me know if you want to do some WOT with my broken in 3.91. I have to make a run out to Temecula this week to see my CPA.
2007 e60 m5 6MT Interlagos Blue; RPI Oil Cooler and Scoops; DINAN High Flow Air Mass Meter and Intake, DINAN 3.91 diff, DINAN strut, DINAN software, DINAN High Flow Middle Racing Exhaust (secondary cat delete) with 3.5" Resonators, DINAN Free Flow Section 3 Exhaust, DINAN 19x9 ET18, 19x10 ET25, Michelin PSS 255/40/19 and 305/30/19, Macht Schnell 15mm spacers (front); Motul RBF 600; FERODO FRP3000H race pads; RDSport/StopTech BBK 380mm/35mm x 380mm/32mm, RD Sport Front and Rear sways; CKS coils w/swift springs; z3 1.9L SSK, with f10 shifter; Escort RedLine hardwired and Bel STiR+ coming. 83,000 miles with no RCOD and counting...
2000 e39 m5 TiAg; PSS9 Coilover; AA Intake/Tune and sink drains; Custom Britalman exhaust (just now retired from my daily driver duties and on loan with my retired Pops!)
1988 e28 m5 STROKER (Paul Burke s38b38); The one that started it all; the one I'll never sell...Euro Headers, custom Ground Control Coilovers undergoing full Euro restoration.
1996 FZJ 80; TRD Supercharger; Expo/Overland/Backcountry Rig; custom sleeper/drawer system, full rock armor, 33"s on 2.5" OME Heavy Lift.
2008 Audi A3 S-Line Quattro (Mammoth Mountain Commuter)