Top Speed of F10 vs E60

francom82 · 28th February 2012, 14:06

Been reading a few more reviews and wondered what people's take was on the top speed of the F10 vs the E60. We all know that the E60's top speed is 205mph, and that's thanks largely to the huge capacity naturally breathing, V10.

Anyone who has seen the review of the CTS-V vs the E60 (link below) will know that at high speeds, the E60 has got cars like the CTS-V with the same BHP as the new F10, absolutely nailed.

Cadillac CTS-V vs BMW M5 by autocar.co.uk - YouTube

Topgear's written review of the F10 claims a top speed of 190mph.

Would be interested to hear people's thoughts.

PS, the F10 M5 review will be on this Sundays Topgear at 8 o clock on BBC 2.

Hasan Shaikh · 28th February 2012, 14:11

The F10 M5 will have no chance against the E60 above 100 mph.

Hasan Shaikh · 28th February 2012, 14:13

In addition, on the track, the E60 will perform much better. Especially if you are going to do more than 2 laps in a session.

335xi · 28th February 2012, 14:40

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Originally Posted by Hasan Shaikh

In addition, on the track, the E60 will perform much better. Especially if you are going to do more than 2 laps in a session.

1 lap at the ring is like 4-5 laps at smaller tracks and the F10 beats the E60 handily.

Hasan Shaikh · 28th February 2012, 14:45

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Originally Posted by 335xi

1 lap at the ring is like 4-5 laps at smaller tracks and the F10 beats the E60 handily.

The ring is not a track.

Whatever it is, it is very fast with a lot of high speed sections and you rarely have to drop to 2nd gear.

Take the F10 M5 to a real race track and then we shall see who wins.

If I remember correctly, there was a review by some reputed magazine on the race track for the F10 M5 and the new CLS 63 AMG and both overheated and went into limp mode after a few laps.

Javacore99 · 28th February 2012, 14:57

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Originally Posted by Hasan Shaikh

The ring is not a track.

Whatever it is, it is very fast with a lot of high speed sections and you rarely have to drop to 2nd gear.

Take the F10 M5 to a real race track and then we shall see who wins.

If I remember correctly, there was a review by some reputed magazine on the race track for the F10 M5 and the new CLS 63 AMG and both overheated and went into limp mode after a few laps.

Listen to what you are saying.. you are saying E60 will have better lap times than the new car but ring times go out of the window because the ring is not a "real track".

I love our cars but i have some objectivity. Don't worry, you will have you answer soon enough as far as speeds over 100mph, track times and top speed as well.

Hasan Shaikh · 28th February 2012, 15:10

The ring is not a race track. It is very fast and there are very few low speed turns.

If you will compare the cars on the ring, the F10 will be faster. If you will compare them on a technical track the E60 will be faster. Especially after a few laps when the heat from turbos starts to take effect.

francom82 · 28th February 2012, 15:56

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Originally Posted by Hasan Shaikh

The ring is not a race track. It is very fast and there are very few low speed turns.

If you will compare the cars on the ring, the F10 will be faster. If you will compare them on a technical track the E60 will be faster. Especially after a few laps when the heat from turbos starts to take effect.

I agree!!!

In terms of straight line and top speed performance alone, just look at the difference between the CTS-V and the E60.

The F10 and CTS-V are not that different! They both way about the same - 1950kg's - both have 560bhp and just look at the E60 go in the higher speeds!

Cadillac CTS-V vs BMW M5 by autocar.co.uk - YouTube

MKSixer · 28th February 2012, 16:00

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Originally Posted by Javacore99

Listen to what you are saying.. you are saying E60 will have better lap times than the new car but ring times go out of the window because the ring is not a "real track".

I love our cars but i have some objectivity. Don't worry, you will have you answer soon enough as far as speeds over 100mph, track times and top speed as well.

Top speed on the F10 is documented to be lower than that of the E60. When it is modded and fully delimited there may be a different outcome...but for now the E60 wins in top speed.

BMWDave · 28th February 2012, 16:49

Ah yes, the old Top Speed debate.

For me personally the Top Speed doesn't matter anymore. I've driven my M5 past 200mph 3 times, and although its exhilarating, now that I've done it, I'd rather have better performance down low in the speed range which is what the E60 M5 is not good at. I've only had a handful of times when I have actually used the E60 M5's superior high speed performance to defeat rivals, so there's a testament to the limit of its usefulness.

Moreover, as gas prices have gone up here in the U.S., especially in California (where gas is easily $4.60 per gallon for crappy 91 octane), I'm ready to trade the thirsty V10 in for the F10 M5's twin turbo V8. Last night I filled up my E60 M5 and paid over $74.00 USD, which is insane if you have to fill up your M5 every 3 or 4 days.

Me personally, stock for stock, I think the E60 will catch up to the F10 around 160 - 170 mph.

The real question is, since about a few dozen people have taken delivery of the F10 M5 in the United Kingdom already, why hasn't anyone over there run the E60 M5 against the F10 M5 to test this top speed debate?!?!?!?! Not sure about the speeding laws over there in the UK, but here in America, we would have found out the answer to this debate if the F10 had been delivered to the USA already.

So stop hypothesizing UK owners and produce some results already! Or else I'll sick my alligator on you!