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post #11 of 53 Old 24th February 2012, 08:00 PM
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I have the BMW gold, and it covers the VANOS per my SA. The BMW coverage pdf doesn't explicitly state VANOS but it says cylinder heads which should include the VANOS.

Per the pdf,

Powertrain plus covers:
Cylinder head(s) and cylinder block. All internally lubricated parts
including: pistons, piston rings and pins; crankshaft, main and
connecting rod bearings; connecting rods; camshaft and bearings;
timing chains and/or belts; sprockets; rocker arms and shafts; valves,
valve springs, upper spring plates (retainers); valve collets, guides,
and seats; hydraulic valve clearance compensators (lifters); oil pump
assembly. Dipstick assembly; vibration damper; flywheel/ring gear;
upper and lower timing case covers; intake and exhaust manifolds;
engine mounts; valve cover(s); oil pan.


Gold:
Cylinder head(s), cylinder block and cylinder head gasket(s).
All internally lubricated parts including: pistons, piston rings
and pins; crankshaft, main and connecting rod bearings;
connecting rods; camshaft and bearings; timing chains and/or
belts; sprockets; rocker arms and shafts; valves, valve springs,
upper spring plates (retainers); valve collets, guides, seats, and
seals; hydraulic valve clearance compensators (lifters); oil pump
assembly. Dipstick assembly; vibration damper; flywheel/ring
gear; upper and lower timing case covers and gaskets; intake
manifold and gasket; exhaust manifolds, engine mounts; valve
cover(s) and gasket(s); oil pan(s) and gasket(s). Front and rear
radial oil seats. (Fuel System): Fuel injectors; fuel pumps; metal
and plastic lines and fittings; fuel tank; fuel injection and airflow
sensors.
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post #12 of 53 Old 25th February 2012, 02:23 AM
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These are the issues that scare the crap out of me on the M5. A unique system that is purely BMW...that may fail during the life of the car and destroy the engine. Yet even BMW's own warranty may or may not cover it partially or fully???

It appears this VANOS pump miles well be the engines oil pump for criticality-move the same lubrication throughout the $26,000 engine.

Love the car for the 5000 miles we have owned it...until something this comes up. Crossing my fingers (and I have an extended warranty too).

I hope things turn out for the better to the OP-being on the road with car issues is not a fun situation.
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I speak from experience too. My pump went bad and took the entire engine with it. Warranty ended up spending close to $18,000 replacing the Oil pump, VANOS lines, VANOS Solenoids, Vanos Timing unit, etc etc... Looks like I'm going to need a new engine after all of this. And yes my dealer also tested the pump with nitrogen and took pressure readings to make sure everything was working properly. Apparently damage was also done to the block hence the recommendation for a new engine.

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Also there is a new service bulletin April 2010 SI B 12 09 07. It has an extensive procedure on testing the line and the pump.... It involves testing with a nitrogen bottle. BMW originally wanted to test the system using this special tool, but that doesn't tell whether its the line or the line and the pump. The nitrogen test show my pump to be perfectly fine but the vanos line had failed. My extended warranty company made them test per the new bulletin.

So I may ask them how they tested it and if they are sure the pump is bad.

But if your ok with just paying the $2k, for a new vanos system them I probably wouldn't sweat it.




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That's an interesting point. The SA did mention a bulletin but never showed it to me. When I first spoke to him on the phone he said the pump was not covered by my warranty. When I went to pick the car up the next day he reversed his position on that quite easily and said the pump was covered but not the labor. I heard him ask the parts guy to order the new pump. But here's the thing. What if they get in there and find the pump is fine and it's just the lines that need changing. Seems I would be getting shortchanged at that point and open to a pump failure a shorter way down the road.

Is there any way to find out if they actually put in a new one? Does anyone have an idea if my independent shop will be able to get a look at it or do you have to tear apart a bunch of stuff to find it.

Of course I should just be happy I'll have the piece of mind driving back to NY.

On another note, my gas mileage seems worse than ever, can this VANOS issue be affecting that?

Thanks for all the replies on this.
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Doesn't make sense that the pump is covered but not the labor. Sounds odd to me.


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I concur, it's either a covered repair or it's not

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Doesn't make sense that the pump is covered but not the labor. Sounds odd to me.


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It could be that it's not but the dealer&BMW USA are good willing 1/2 of the cost.
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Braman finally got the part. Dropped the car off an hour ago. I have to leave Miami for NY Tuesday at 10:00 am. I am keeping my fingers crossed.
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BTW, they gave me a 328i loaner with 387 miles on it. First time I tried to stop I almost hit the car in front of me. **** brakes. Man am I spoiled
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BTW, they gave me a 328i loaner with 387 miles on it. First time I tried to stop I almost hit the car in front of me. **** brakes. Man am I spoiled
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