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Old 7th March 2012, 13:18   #241
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Yes it would, you would lower torque and HP unless you retune for more boost and advance the ignition to make a gain. Lowering the compression just reduces the chance of pre-ignition (knock).

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Old 7th March 2012, 14:11   #242
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Old 7th March 2012, 14:48   #243
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Whose car was this??? Shouldn't it have pulled on the GTR??? Looks like it really starts pulling at the very end.

GTR vs ESS M5 - YouTube

I don't know if anyone mentioned this since I didn't read through the next 10 pages, but look at that GTR vs a SL65 with a Renntech tune!!!!

GTR vs AMG SL65 - YouTube


The GTR stayed with it. No freaking way nothing is done to it....just impossible. I have seen stock 2010 GTR's not be able to keep up with a stock M6 coupe from a 60 mph roll.

The ESS car is a freaking beast if it can pull like that on that individual GTR that beat the Renntech SL65
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If the GTR Eloy raced lets say has 480whp and Eloy has 527hp however the TQ from the M5 is only 380TQ but the GTR has 450tq... Who do you think is gonna win even in a rolling start? Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out!
They did do a rolling start and they were even until Eloy started pulling away at the end so your statement doesn't make a lot of since to me. I realize hp numbers canít be just compared and that every dyno is going to be different but you have to use some kind of benchmark to understand what you are seeing. As far as hp numbers go, I don't understand how Eloy's car dynoed 578rwhp and now we are saying that it is really 527rwhp. Is that a correction factor? Please explain for my own knowledge.


In comparison, take the Dinan stroker M5 against the 997tt. Virtually the same numbers we are talking about on both cars. The stroker walks it on every roll on test fairly easy. I only use this because this is the closest thing I can come up with at this point. None of this is meant to be an argument, only discussion.



I don't think anyone here is saying that the e60 or the f10 is in the same class. It is obviously not. The GTR is the king of the hill at the moment and virtually every car out there is comparing their car to it. It is something to shoot for, thatís all. There is nothing wrong with doing that. Maybe, if Eloy would have had his car ready for a one time race as everyone else did we would not be having this discussion? Before I get flamed...That is not a diss on Eloy what so ever. I have respect for everything he has done for our community.
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I don't know if anyone mentioned this since I didn't read through the next 10 pages, but look at that GTR vs a SL65 with a Renntech tune!!!!

GTR vs AMG SL65 - YouTube


The GTR stayed with it. No freaking way nothing is done to it....just impossible. I have seen stock 2010 GTR's not be able to keep up with a stock M6 coupe from a 60 mph roll.

The ESS car is a freaking beast if it can pull like that on that individual GTR that beat the Renntech SL65

Haha yeah, we are all arguing and we haven't even confirmed the "real" mods yet for this GTR. Put Eloy's car up against that orange VT 650 M3 and lets see what happens. At the end of the day there are not going to be any stock cars that can compete with a VT 650 M5/M6 and that is all I really care about
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Haha yeah, we are all arguing and we haven't even confirmed the "real" mods yet for this GTR. Put Eloy's car up against that orange VT 650 M3 and lets see what happens. At the end of the day there are not going to be any stock cars that can compete with a VT 650 M5/M6 and that is all I really care about
Just get this and be done with it hahahahaha Underground Racing Gallardo 1500 RWHP vs AG Nissan GT-R 851 AWHP on E85-fuel - YouTube

I am keeping the M6 basically stock until I can afford to own a beast like that

$300k for the car....$300k in maintenance over the next 5 years
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Just get this and be done with it hahahahaha Underground Racing Gallardo 1500 RWHP vs AG Nissan GT-R 851 AWHP on E85-fuel - YouTube

I am keeping the M6 basically stock until I can afford to own a beast like that

$300k for the car....$300k in maintenance over the next 5 years

Haha wow. Yeah I am all about throwing money into my hobbies, but I do not want anything that is going to fall apart or be in the shop every other week. There is a UGR TT Spyder for sale in Texas, only 200k Only has 4,000 miles on the vehicle. Hurry up and buy it so we can drive in the Mtns. Friday
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Haha wow. Yeah I am all about throwing money into my hobbies, but I do not want anything that is going to fall apart or be in the shop every other week. There is a UGR TT Spyder for sale in Texas, only 200k Only has 4,000 miles on the vehicle. Hurry up and buy it so we can drive in the Mtns. Friday
Yea I have no clue how much maintenance those cars are but I imagine they need something fixed every few months at least. They need to sell a maintenance plan with those cars lol
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If you search ESS M3 vs GTR in youtube there are a ton of videos:

ESS VT625 SC'D M3 vs Modded GTR's vs HPF Stage 2 M3 vs Modded Turbo S vs Modded 997TT - YouTube

Now we just need Paul or Eloy to race an ESS M3 so we can compare
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If you search ESS M3 vs GTR in youtube there are a ton of videos:

ESS VT625 SC'D M3 vs Modded GTR's vs HPF Stage 2 M3 vs Modded Turbo S vs Modded 997TT - YouTube

Now we just need Paul or Eloy to race an ESS M3 so we can compare
Hopefully the ESS M3 is not as fast as the ESS M6, but then again the M3 is much lighter.
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