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post #561 of 1015 Old 16th March 2012, 02:53 PM
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Hey guys,

I've been monitoring the board for all things SMG among others... It has been mentioned that the euro SMG software solves the hesitation and it makes shifts smoother.

I ran into a problem today when I wanted to get quickly out of a lane which was standing still into the other. The transmission was kind of engaging 2nd/disengaging/engaging/disengaging so the car was really jerky meanwhile I was getting out of the lane (I was a bit more than halfway through the pedal at the time). I was in P400 D3 at the time.

I want to know if this is what other members refer to by the SMG hesitation which is fixed by the euro version of the SMG.

One other question comes to my mind, does this tune change the life of the clutch? I mean, if it's really better, who the heck decided that NA version gets a crappy SMG software
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Just got My euro tune, coding and Ecu tune in my beast. The shifts are really smooth, what a difference. That 4k Lauch is awsome spun my tires out till I got to 4th gear. The guys at ECU program know there stuff. Miguel and Simriy are very knowledgable. The getting there Dyno in the end of March and I want to see what the beast puts out. Thanks again Miguel and Sim.
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And now its all back together but the rain and weather will not let me go for a drive yet. Thanks Charles (thumbs up)

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Does anyone think the reason for the smoother shifts with the Euro tune are due to more riding of the clutch and therefore more clutch wear? What else would make it smoother? I just had my tcu/ecu updated (not by choice) with US V3 and even though my ESS ecu tune was wiped out I can't imagine the shifts being any smoother. My car is a sept 2006 build and I thought the SMG shifted fine with just an ecu tune.
On a side note, I can't imagine anyone driving this car without an ecu tune. Now that I have been driving around almost stock, the throttle mapping is just horrible. I would rather just leave it parked in the garage until my VT2 upgrade.

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Does anyone think the reason for the smoother shifts with the Euro tune are due to more riding of the clutch and therefore more clutch wear? What else would make it smoother? I just had my tcu/ecu updated (not by choice) with US V3 and even though my ESS ecu tune was wiped out I can't imagine the shifts being any smoother. My car is a sept 2006 build and I thought the SMG shifted fine with just an ecu tune.
On a side note, I can't imagine anyone driving this car without an ecu tune. Now that I have been driving around almost stock, the throttle mapping is just horrible. I would rather just leave it parked in the garage until my VT2 upgrade.

It honestly depends which version you have now. The early US versions shifted fast then bmw slowed it down mid 2007/early 2008. If you remember their were all the threads about not getting your SMG software updated as the update makes all your shifts slower and at the same time people getting the LCI were saying how much smoother the smg was. The latest US versionmade the car feel less jerky and was more progressive throughout the rev's. However S5 felt considerably slower and some low rpm shifts could take way to long.

I would call the latest euro software best of both worlds. Smooth but quick shifts and the launch control if you so desire.

I think between the latest versions the euro software slips the clutch less and could be less wear and tear on it unless you are doing the 4k launch controls.... however from bmw's perspective I would imagine the latest US software should be the easiest on the transmission from a warranty stand point.
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So the Euro software will wear the transmission faster and the latest US version will wear the clutch faster? Is that what is being concluded?

I have the Eurocharged tune which helped make throttle more sensitive and I also have the SB which made it even more sensitive, I did this to help engage the clutch quicker for less wear and want to know how the Euro software would be helpful? I really don't need the 4k launch but I am having 1st gear clutch judder when the clutch gets hot and want to know if the Euro Software will cure this.

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So the Euro software will wear the transmission faster and the latest US version will wear the clutch faster? Is that what is being concluded?
If you use the launch control, for sure. Otherwise I would say very slight change in wear and tear is my opinion. A faster shift can be less wear on the clutch but more on the drivetrain.
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Thanks, This is why I am always using S5 or S6 to decrease clutch wear as I am under warranty for drivetrain and not clutch. So it seems the new US SMG program is for BMW USA to save on drivetrain repairs and benefit on clutch repair :O
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Thanks, This is why I am always using S5 or S6 to decrease clutch wear as I am under warranty for drivetrain and not clutch. So it seems the new US SMG program is for BMW USA to save on drivetrain repairs and benefit on clutch repair :O
I'd rather buy a $700 dollar clutch kit vs a new SMG transmission no? Not sure where that logic is... cause it would take a lot of clutches to add up to a whole transmission.
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