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Old 28th April 2011, 07:48   #1
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BMW M5 vs Ferrari California vs BMW M3

YouTube - Ferrari VS BMW M5 VS BMW M3 drag race

Guess who wins!

Just wondering if anyone has seen it yet. I'm still kind of surprised how the E60 can still beat and hold its own after 5.5 years. Amazing right?
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Unfortunately the California, even though it's a Ferarri, is not really a "Ferarri." Kind of like the calling the 944, or to a lesser extent the Boxster, a Porsche. It is, but Porsche reputation is based on the 911.

Ferarris that built the reputation are mid-engine, lightweight, 2-seater race-bred cars. The California is a 3800lb, 450hp, 4-seat convertible hard top with a front engine.

But I guess it's nice to to be able to say that he beat a new Ferarri.

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The Ferrari definitely sounds the best though. I didn't know M5's walked M3's like that.
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I have a driven a California and I agree with you it may not be a "real" Ferrari, but I have to say it was very refined, the Dual clutch tranny is sweet and the ride is fantastic for what it is. I wouldn't say no to one..oh and it felt fast pretty rapid too...oh yeah and it sounds like a Ferrari!
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Is your car modded? If not, the Cali owner may not be a great driver. I've raced 2 Californias, and each time they were just a shade faster. The M5 is not faster than the California at the speeds you raced at. These cars run high 11's to low 12's in the 1/4 mile stock. Up high might be a different story above 100+mph.
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Is your car modded? If not, the Cali owner may not be a great driver. I've raced 2 Californias, and each time they were just a shade faster. The M5 is not faster than the California at the speeds you raced at. These cars run high 11's to low 12's in the 1/4 mile stock. Up high might be a different story above 100+mph.
Uhhh I'm not the one racing. The video's M5 is stock as far as I know according to the description. The California actually weighs kinda heavy for a Ferrari (3800 lbs) and has 450 hp. I don't know how fast it traps in the 1/4 mile but that is irrelevant.

This was a ROLLING race like Gustav's airfield runs. Not a drag style race where the California has the edge like you state. In this race, I'm sure they took their cars up to over 100 mph. Pretty sure...And that's where the M5 pulled.
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I have a driven a California and I agree with you it may not be a "real" Ferrari, but I have to say it was very refined, the Dual clutch tranny is sweet and the ride is fantastic for what it is. I wouldn't say no to one..oh and it felt fast pretty rapid too...oh yeah and it sounds like a Ferrari!
Yes, it's a beautiful car. I don't disagree there at all. And it is very quick and everything you'd want out of a high-end performance coupe. I'm just saying that racing a California is not like racing an F430.

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Wierd comparison, and the E60 is nothing to trifle with. There are many variables when competing the 3 given their strengths and weaknesses.
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Yes, it's a beautiful car. I don't disagree there at all. And it is very quick and everything you'd want out of a high-end performance coupe. I'm just saying that racing a California is not like racing an F430.
Actually, even a F430 in a rolling start isn't faster than M5 (been there, done that, when my car was stock). Would I compare an M5 with F430? No, not really. Would I take one instead of my current M5? May be. The 458 Italia on the other hand, is a force to be reckoned with. It is visceral.
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Actually, even a F430 in a rolling start isn't faster than M5 (been there, done that, when my car was stock). Would I compare an M5 with F430? No, not really. Would I take one instead of my current M5? May be. The 458 Italia on the other hand, is a force to be reckoned with. It is visceral.
Yes, maybe the F430 wasn't the best example. When I think of Ferrari's racing, I don't tend to think drag race. Straight line they might be about the same I guess. But with a 700lb difference, I suspect in every other category the F430 would prevail handily. But since the OP's example was a straight line run, then you're correct that it doesn't make a difference there.
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