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Old 21st January 2011, 06:57   #1
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7:52 for E60 M5 at Nurburgring?

If this is old news or BS then sorry, I just came across it this evening and found it interesting. Has anyone else seen this? I did a quick search and couldn't find a reference on this board.

Apparently this is an article which describes the E60 M5 doing a 7:52 lap at Nurburgring before it went on sale. From what I read other places the commonly accepted time for the E60 M5 is 8:13 at the ring.

The article is in German so I had to translate it to read it.

Rhein-Main.Net » Ratgeber » Auto und Verkehr » Power pur: BMW M5 stößt fast schon an die physikalischen Grenzen

Anyone know if this is true or not?

Interesting....

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Old 21st January 2011, 08:02   #2
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thats interesting... they have all kinds of rules regarding timing, so its hard to tell what constitutes an "official" lap time.

the panamera turbo turned a 7:56 and the 2011 STI turned a 7:55 (with tommi makkinen driving, of course)

I think once any car gets down into the 7s, its pretty impressive.
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Old 21st January 2011, 08:05   #3
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I believe it could be possible. The ring is very technical and has a lot of high speed sections that most drivers usually go too slow through, so if one driver was brave enough to really push the car through all the faster sections he could shave off a lot of time.

I remember watching the video for the Viper ACR's record setting time. The driver bounced the car off the rev limiter many, many times and often just held the car at the rev limiter for a few seconds rather than up-shift and get a little more speed out of it. I'm sure this more than contributed to a few seconds of time. Just shows how much the driver matters. The M5 is SMG, so doing an extra downshift/upshift is not a big a deal as it is on a manual car.

Furthermore, from what I understand, BMW's ring times are with the 155 speed governor IN PLACE. I'm sure more than a few seconds could be made up if they were to try a lap with the governor removed (especially the main straight, where I'm sure the M could start to knock on the door of 190 or 200).
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I managed 185 on that same section of road.

in Gran Turismo 5.

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Furthermore, from what I understand, BMW's ring times are with the 155 speed governor IN PLACE. I'm sure more than a few seconds could be made up if they were to try a lap with the governor removed (especially the main straight, where I'm sure the M could start to knock on the door of 190 or 200).
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I managed 185 on that same section of road.

in Gran Turismo 5.
I feel that in Gran Turismo many of the cars are slower than they are in real life, stock M5 included...
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The M5 E60 drove in the super test from the mag sport auto 8:13min.

Max g-force was 1.2g

The mag sport auto is our reference for all sport cars.
The round was driven from Horst von Sauma. He is know race driver in germany and he is driving the 24h race on the ring too.

Time from the CSL was 7:50min
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It´s true and it was done by Hans Joachim Stuck.

Which also means that Hans + M5 E60 is faster then Walter + Panamera Turbo
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Yes, but that also means it's only 3 seconds faster than the 2011 STI, with only ~300hp, and a 2.0 liter 4 banger.


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It´s true and it was done by Hans Joachim Stuck.

Which also means that Hans + M5 E60 is faster then Walter + Panamera Turbo
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This was the reference time from M-GmbH.
I think this car was in a very good "condition".

But the time from sport auto is very good.
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It's worth noting that the 06 and 07 M5s came with Continental tires. The 08s and newer came with PS2s. The test on the 06 M5 was done with conti tires, i'm sure that a PS2 equipped M5 would break into the 7s easily.
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