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Hi, sorry to reply on the old thread. I just did my 2007 M6 from SMG to 6sp manual! I live in Jakarta, Indonesia. I did the mod coz my hydraulic pump failed so might as well i changed it to manual. The cost of the pump is around US$ 3,900 without installation from authorized workshop. The total cost of the mod is around US$ 6,500. I know it's more expensive but I think in the future i wont have any problem again with the pump failure. Now the car is in running condition eventhough i have a check engine error in the dash. I did a little test drive, it runs like charm & feel like original factory fitted.

According to my guy in the workshop, still need to change the code in DME from SMG to 6sp manual. So far, we havent got any clue what is the code & how to change it. The other solution, if i can find used DME & CAS control unit of 6sp manual car, to remove the check engine error.
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Can you please provide more details of how it was done and what parts and modifications were required.

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Hi, sorry to reply on the old thread. I just did my 2007 M6 from SMG to 6sp manual! I live in Jakarta, Indonesia. I did the mod coz my hydraulic pump failed so might as well i changed it to manual. The cost of the pump is around US$ 3,900 without installation from authorized workshop. The total cost of the mod is around US$ 6,500. I know it's more expensive but I think in the future i wont have any problem again with the pump failure. Now the car is in running condition eventhough i have a check engine error in the dash. I did a little test drive, it runs like charm & feel like original factory fitted.

According to my guy in the workshop, still need to change the code in DME from SMG to 6sp manual. So far, we havent got any clue what is the code & how to change it. The other solution, if i can find used DME & CAS control unit of 6sp manual car, to remove the check engine error.
No need for all of that silliness and expense.

The difference between the calibration tables for the 6MT to SMG is a single byte of data found in two locations in the map. You can easily flash the DME to the 6MT version using a good, working installation of WinKFP from BMW Standard Tools software.

If you're interested in tuning the DME, it can be switched that way as well while editing all the other maps.
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Is that CEL the only error that will pop up after the swap or there will be other issues to be taken care of?
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No need for all of that silliness and expense.

The difference between the calibration tables for the 6MT to SMG is a single byte of data found in two locations in the map. You can easily flash the DME to the 6MT version using a good, working installation of WinKFP from BMW Standard Tools software.

If you're interested in tuning the DME, it can be switched that way as well while editing all the other maps.
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Thank you so much for the info, if you dont mind to tell me how to do it & we will discuss the fee?
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Can you please provide more details of how it was done and what parts and modifications were required.

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I bought an used M5 6speed manual and all the parts needed, like pedal, drive shaft, all the links from gearbox to the shifter, shifter parts.

Its only the CEL now, nothing else

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Thank you so much for the info, if you dont mind to tell me how to do it & we will discuss the fee?
If you are just looking to have it flashed to the OEM 6MT software, you will want to flash ZUSB 7842504 into the DME. Additionally, you need to have the option code "2MA" added into the the Vehicle Order (VO aka FA) using NCSExpert. This may not be the optimal route however as the OBD compliance settings for your country may be different and any inspections done by your transportation authority may not pass.

The tuning route however is quite straightforward, but obviously at more expense than the afore mentioned. If you are interested, shoot me an email at jim@fastattackmotorsports.com and I'll answer any questions you may have.
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Is that CEL the only error that will pop up after the swap or there will be other issues to be taken care of?
Hasan,

Hard to say, but I'm going to guess it's a result of missing torque requests from the SMG module via PT-CAN to the DME. Most likely will be 3-4 error codes associated with the three SMG PT-CAN arbIDs being absent. The "getriebtype" parameter in the DME apparently flags the program to stop looking for/listening to PT-CAN data on those ArbIDs as well as flags the DME to monitor the additional sensors the 6MT has connected directly to it.

Coding the VO/FA is probably a must though, but easy enough.
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If you are just looking to have it flashed to the OEM 6MT software, you will want to flash ZUSB 7842504 into the DME. Additionally, you need to have the option code "2MA" added into the the Vehicle Order (VO aka FA) using NCSExpert. This may not be the optimal route however as the OBD compliance settings for your country may be different and any inspections done by your transportation authority may not pass.

The tuning route however is quite straightforward, but obviously at more expense than the afore mentioned. If you are interested, shoot me an email at jim@fastattackmotorsports.com and I'll answer any questions you may have.

Jim

Thank you so much for the clue, i will let my mechnic at the workshop. I have sent you an email.

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