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2010 CIC install in 2006 M5 Pictorial

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#1 · (Edited)
I picked up my package from Patryk today which contained a pre-programmed CIC for my VIN. On hand I already had the new LCI style Climate Controls and the set of 3 North America DVDs.

I know that Nelson already has a thread on this retrofit, but I figured I'd go ahead and create another one specifically for a swap into an M5 and also provide some different pictures that Nelson did not publish in his excellent thread.

Here's the package from Patryk. It arrived in excellent condition, especially give the distance it traveled to get to me.



And here are all the goodies spread out on the table:



Next up was pulling the trim off:



A shot of the back of the CCC with all wires still attached:



After complete removal of old CCC components:



CCC vs. CIC backs. The orange connector on the CIC is not connected to anything once installed.



CIC cables test fitted on bench:



My old center trim before seperation:



Lower center trim seperated from upper. I broke all the tabs, but they are fortunately not used with the new upper center trim:



Next up was pulling the pins from the power connector from the old display. Here's the old connector:



After transferring to new connector:



Different angle showing the pin-outs:



Routing USB cable to glove box. I used the same hole that the OEM iPod adapter uses:



Completed:



CIC with all wires connected just before being installed. Note that the cable to the old display and the power for the CCC cooling fan are not used with the CIC.



CIC installed:



Old vs. new Climate Controls:



New Climate Controls installed along with center trim:



Finally a set of shots showing some M5 specific screens on the fancy new display:









Only issue right now is that I'm still using the old iDrive controller and no matter how slow I turn it, I'm taken from the top selection to the bottom selection and visa versa. I have not heard of this issue from others. Perhaps it is unique to '06 models or M5s, or just my particular car? Anyway, that just might be the excuse I need to go ahead and complete the swap by getting the new controller!
 
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#2 ·
Peter-
AWESOME JOB on the INSTALLATION. Your pics looks great!! WELCOME to the CIC Retrofit CLUB!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry to hear that you are having issues with the controller. Hoping it something that Patryk can fix with Coding.
 
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Thanks Nelson!

And I really appreciate the call to set me straight on the power connector for the display. Patryk was also quick to PM me as well with the pin outs.

I PM'ed him about the iDrive as well. I will need to get an interface cable if the fix requires programming. I'll need that anyway to get my folding mirrors fold/unfold when I lock/unlock the car. :haha:
 
#5 ·
Did you finish uploading the maps? wanna read your thoughts on it!!
 
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I'm following this with interest, as I don't intend to buy a newer M5 anytime soon (how about adding a 1M coupe instead and keeping the old M5) but would like a better I-drive interface. I am still fairly confused about all of the differences though. I can't seem to find a comprehensive set of information. A bunch of random posts with parts of the information exist, but nothing really puts it all together for me. For example, isn't the nav now hard-drive based, so why the need for the DVD set? etc...
 
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For example, isn't the nav now hard-drive based, so why the need for the DVD set? etc...
It is, but one has to load the maps onto the hard-drive initially for the region they drive in. In a new vehicle with a CIC, this task would be done at some point prior to delivery, but when doing the retrofit, you have to do this yourself. The DVD set itself only cost 7 bucks. The code needed to load the maps will set you back around $200. One would need to go through this proceedure each year for the latest maps.
 
#10 · (Edited)
Drove the car to work this morning and uncovered some additional issues:

* A/C compressor never comes on even though the LCI climate control otherwise appear to function correctly
* The engine cooling fan is on permanently
* Internal DVD drive cannot read CD or DVDs
* I need to change units from Metric to Standard

I'm confident that the above issues can be fixed by some additional coding tweaks once Patryk connects to my car.

I'm also going to take the car to the dealer to get the latest software installed. I need to be at v32 at least in order for the iDrive controller to function properly.
 
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I don't see why you could not change just the climate control, but you would need the correct LCI trim to match.

I believe my main issue is due to me running a software version prior to v3.2. That and the fact that the CIC is in metric mode right now. At least I hope those are the issues.

I'm going to swap my old climate control back in to see if the AC and engine cooling fan issues goes away.
 
#12 ·
Peter-

You can change the KM and temperature setting by going to the settings menu and clicking on language/units sub menu.

Im also replying to this thread so that M5 owners that dont visit the e60.net site would know whats going on.
 
#13 · (Edited)
Thanks Nelson.

I have been PM'ing back and fourth with Patryk.

He's pretty sure that my controller issue is due to me running a software version less than v32.

Peter
 
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Thanks Nelson.

I have been PM'ing back and fourth with Patryk.

He seems to think that the issue with the controller is that I need to get the dealer to upgrade my software (to update the controller) I'm not sure what version I'm on, but I'll try to find out. Is the latest v3.1? The FAQ seems to be dated as it stopped at v2.6 which dates back to 2007.

He also feels that upgrading to the new controller should fix the issue as well.

I'll keep you guys posted.

Peter
Peter-
Im with Patryk about the software issue. I know some e90post members had issues when they were trying just to retrofit the new controller with the CCC. After an software update they were able to get it to work.

There's was a major change on BMW electronics around 2007 and thats why i think you need the update. I Know for regular e60 owners who software as of 04/09 was V33.006
 
#15 · (Edited)
According to Patryk, the latest version is v3.8. He states that I should be on at least version v3.2 for the controller to work correctly.

Got a call into the dealer to schedule an appointment.
 
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If it turns out that I am on a version older than 3.2, would this be one of those times when I should put in the old CCC before having the upgrade done?
 
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Correct. They won't be able to do the update with the CIC.
 
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I went ahead and scheduled dropping my ride off at the dealer Thursday morning to get my software updated.

I picked up an interface cable from Patryk so that he can log in and get the outstanding issues squared away, like me not being able to read CD or DVDs, and hopefully the odd behavior when I use the LCI climate control.

I'm also getting the new iDrive controller and trim pieces. Even though I'm hopeful that the software upgrade will make my current controller work, I'd still like to make the conversion complete.

I'm going to look around for a local outfit that offers water jet CNC service to have my existing center console trim cut for the new controller. That is likely the most cost effective route.

So I converted back to the CCC unit tonight and everything is back to working the way it was before this experiment began. All I had to do was to reset the clock and date.
 
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Awesome job. :thumbsup: We all appreciate this thread as well as the original thread by Nelson. You are probably the first person who is going to put in the new i-drive controller in the M5. If it all goes well, a lot of people are going to consider doing this mod. I hope it all goes smoothly at the dealership.
 
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You best bet is keeping an eye on Ebay for the CIC display and head unit and see if you get lucky and get a good deal. They are very expensive at the dealer and there is a core charge on the head unit as well.

In either case, you need to work with someone to get the coding done. In my case, I'm getting this done by Patryk, who can also get you all the parts at a reasonable price. This is the easiests way. Even though he can pre-program the unit before shipping it to you, there is still a need to do some final coding once the unit is installed. At least that appears to be the case for now on E60 conversions.

The other parts are fairly cheap and can be ordered online.

As Nelson stated, the parts run about $3000 total w/ coding, assuming you don't go through a local dealer for the 2 main pieces.
 
#22 ·
The retrofit is about $3000.
 
#24 ·
Tak Gustav!

Had my program updated to version 37.204 at the dealer today (they forgot to make note of my previous version).

The SA said there were no issues and all modules took the update just fine. Cost was a flat 2 hours ($240 total).

So it put my CIC back in, but alas, I still have the same controller issue.

My ODB-II interface cable and new controller should be here on Tuesday, so Patryk and I plan to have a coding session as soon as it arrives, to get these remaining issues flushed out.

I'm puzzled why the software upgrade didn't correct the controller issue, but I suspect that once Patryk has a look around, he will quickly discover the culprit. Either way, the new controller should fix this issue once and for all I suspect.
 
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I'm almost glad to hear the update didn't do the trick, that leaves some room for some programing magic.
For all who didn't follow the threads on 5series.net, Stunt and I are in the same boat, he beat me by a day though to be the first E60 M5 doing the retrofit ;).

Here's a vid of the CIC in my M5 currently installed with the PRE-LCI AC controls.

 
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I'm almost glad to hear the update didn't do the trick, that leaves some room for some programing magic.
For all who didn't follow the threads on 5series.net, Stunt and I are in the same boat, he beat me by a day though to be the first E60 M5 doing the retrofit ;).

Here's a vid of the CIC in my M5 currently installed with the PRE-LCI AC controls.

Wow that scrolling thing really sucks. I guess you could use your steering wheel to go up and down 1 step?
 
#31 ·
Ok, I got the center console removed.

The first step is to pull the shifter knob. It pull straight up and will take some force. Be carefull to stop pulling as soon as it breaks free to prevent damaging the wires for the light. The leather boot pops out and comes with it.

You also want to remove the iDrive knob at this point. Pull straight up at the 3 and 6 o'clock positions and it will come off.

With the boot gone, you can now pull off the trim piece. This will reveal 2 torx screws that hold down the main trim piece (wood or aluminum). At this point you also want to pop out the ashtray inset. Just push down on it and it will release.

The main trim piece can now be removed. Pull it loose at the front, then use a wedge to carefully pry it straight up at the rear.

Here's a shot of the center console after the trim has been removed. You can see the 2 white retainers behind the iDrive controller. This is where you want to insert a flat wedge. You can also make out 6 torx screws in this shot. The 4 in the front hold down the ashtray bracket. They don't have to be removed, but it makes it easier to get the console out later.



Next we need to reveal the 4 nuts that hold the console in place. Start by sliding back the 2 side trim pieces where the floor carpet meets the console along either side. You want to remove the rear nut on each side. Here's the passenger side one:



Now its time to climb in the back seat and remove the power outlets and A/C vents. The lower panel will pop right out. If you have a snap-in adaptor, you will want to disconnect it at this time. Things should now look like this:



Next you need to remove the 2 clips that hold the vents in place. Here they are shown partially removed:



Pull down and out, and the vents will come out. Disconnect all wires and shove them into the AC tunnel to get them out of the way. You should have a clear view of the remaining 2 bolts that need to be removed.



Now comes the fun part! Pull the parking brake handle forward to loosen it from the metal lever. Now pull it as hard as you can to set the brake. You can now begin to lift the center console as shown here:



You will now want to reach in and undo the connector for the iDrive controller. Continue lifting up and the consoler will clear the parking brake lever and can be removed. Here's a shot with it removed showing the iDrive connectors on the passenger seat:



Backseat shot showing the entire consoler area:



You should now have the following collection of pieces removed from the car:



Here's the backside of the console with the iDrive controller still attached:



Here it is again with the controller removed:



Closeup of old iDrive:



Back side:



Reconnected in car:



Nelson, does the new iDrive controller have 2 connectors on it that looks like it will accept the wires you see in the shot above?
So that's pretty much it for removing the console. Once the new controller gets here next week, I can begin trimming the for the new iDrive.

Finally, here are a couple of shots of the patient under the knife:



 
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#33 · (Edited)
Yes. I figure we will start by seeing what program version is actually in my vehicle, and assuming it is v37.x like the dealer stated, we will try to get the old idrive going.

If I have older software, I'm going to raise hell with the dealer.

I'm not sure if we will try the new controller before I get the program updated first, but hopefully it won't come to that.

So assuming we get everything working w/ the old controller, then and only then, will I swap out to the new controller and verify all is still well.
 
#35 · (Edited)
Got my interface cable today and had about a 1 hour session with Patryk.

In about 20 minutes, he had my original iDrive controller working!

Apparently the dealer did upgrade the firmware/software on it, but for some reason, not well enough!

After another 20 minutes, he had my CIC reading CDs and DVDs, and after I checked that everything was working correctly, he programmed my mirrors to fold up when locking the car, and fold down when unlocking. Very cool!

I also have the new iDrive controller, and while the bracket for it does bolt up nicely to my existing console, the controller itself will not work with trim used for the original iDrive controller. I'll post pics in a bit showing the issue.

In short, the CCC to CIC conversion works great in pre-2010 M5s with no need to replace the original iDrive controller!

HUD, M5 button settings, everything works as it should, only much faster and nicer looking than before.

I give a big thumbs up to Patryk in being able to get my controller going where the dealer program update couldn't!

I'll post additional details later tonight. I'm very excited to finally getting the old iDrive controller working. I'm a bit dissapointed that my current trim won't work with the new controller, but I don't really have any issues navigating the CIC with the existing controller at all.

Currently in the process of loading the 2010 North America Nav DVDs.
 
#36 · (Edited)
Here's the new iDrive bracket fitting perfectly into my console:



The new iDrive fitting not so perfectly below my trim:



Screen after putting in Nav DVD 1:



Entering the code:



Loading process started:



It better hurry up loading, my next mod is already here!

 
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