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Old 7th November 2009, 02:10   #11
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I just wish I could use that 0-150 speed more....
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Old 7th November 2009, 02:12   #12
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I just wish I could use that 1-150 speed more.......
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Old 7th November 2009, 03:07   #13
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Those are seriously good numbers for the M5 - even though I am biased the facts speak for themselves that a 5 year old car is still able to maintain and exceed the against latest and greatest. I know its inevitable that these cars all end up getting compared against each other, strikes me though that they are quite different from the M5 in many ways. How many E63's or Jag XFR's do you see at any track events? Did see two CTS-V's this weekend at a track event, and thought they looked pretty cool (in black with black wheels) in fairness. Will also be interesting to see what the Tata-Jaguar (Tatuar?) evolution now looks like.
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Old 7th November 2009, 05:55   #14
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I just wish I could use that 1-150 speed more.......
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Bottom line: The M5 still competes and can beat each of these cars in several key categories. With years to specifically develop a car to top the M5, none of these can claim to run away with superior performance.

Bottom line: Car magazines have one purpose, to sell magazines. They are tailored for the average citizen, not hard core auto enthusiasts. Articles on new cars sell magazines to the surface readers, not tests including 5 year old cars. They gain nothing by conducting a true test with the M5 included and showing how it still competes and surpasses these cars is certain areas. They would never sell another magazine if they kept focus on a car they have already reviewed time and time again.

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Yes, the numbers I posted for the M5 is back from Jan 2006 (IIRC), and the scans are from this month (Dec 2009), same magazine, same testing equipment. The M5 has been out in EU since 2005. It shows the M5 as being the lightest and having the smallest engine ( 5.0L NA versus 6.2L Supercharged, 6.2L NA and 5.0L SC ), yet still being fastest than them all in acceleration tests and trap speeds. Braking was best and lane change/directional stability was 2nd quickest. Also remember that in '05 and '06, all M5's wore Continental ContiSport 2's, which are inferior to the Michellin PS2's that came later on the 2007's and the tire of choice most owners buy after the initial set wears out at 15000 mls. The PS2's should help the M5's subpar lateral grip (0.89 g's) to at least test avg (0.90g) and should be better for the braking, acceleration traction and transitional lane change speed measures.

The M5 was also quietest where it counts most (the 70mph cruise dB), and we all know that the unrestricted top speed is actually over 200 mph verified by GPS from many members here. For a 5 year old car on a near 7 year old platform, that's not too shabby at all.

I agree with M5_Bliss. Magazines must feature the lastest and hottest cars in its comparos. The general public doesn't want to read about that 5 year old dog that can still keep up with this gen's greyhounds (and even beat them).
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Those numbers for the M5 are pretty darn impressive- especially from a 5 year old(has it really been that long?) car.
Makes me all the more eager to get mine.
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Here is a test we just did last nite, M5 vs E55 AMG, if someone would like to make a seperate thread for it, thanks.
YouTube - E60 M5 vs W211 E55 AMG
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Yes, the numbers I posted for the M5 is back from Jan 2006 (IIRC), and the scans are from this month (Dec 2009), same magazine, same testing equipment. The M5 has been out in EU since 2005. It shows the M5 as being the lightest and having the smallest engine ( 5.0L NA versus 6.2L Supercharged, 6.2L NA and 5.0L SC ), yet still being fastest than them all in acceleration tests and trap speeds. Braking was best and lane change/directional stability was 2nd quickest. Also remember that in '05 and '06, all M5's wore Continental ContiSport 2's, which are inferior to the Michellin PS2's that came later on the 2007's and the tire of choice most owners buy after the initial set wears out at 15000 mls. The PS2's should help the M5's subpar lateral grip (0.89 g's) to at least test avg (0.90g) and should be better for the braking, acceleration traction and transitional lane change speed measures.

The M5 was also quietest where it counts most (the 70mph cruise dB), and we all know that the unrestricted top speed is actually over 200 mph verified by GPS from many members here. For a 5 year old car on a near 7 year old platform, that's not too shabby at all.

I agree with M5_Bliss. Magazines must feature the lastest and hottest cars in its comparos. The general public doesn't want to read about that 5 year old dog that can still keep up with this gen's greyhounds (and even beat them).

EM 5, I meant to thank you earlier for posting those numbers. I was looking for these.
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I agree the e60 M5 was probably excluded due to its pending discontinuation later this year. Its just a disappointment not to see it in a C&D comparison against its arch rivals the e63 and CTSV.

I have to admit that I was anxiously awaiting this specific comparison for months hoping the M5 would redeem itself from the losses at Motor Trend and other recent Euro mag comparisons.

Oh well, the 600hp F10 m5 can't come soon enough to spank the AMG and Caddy back into their proper places; well behind the M5!
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