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Old 7th August 2009, 06:53   #1
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Update: Pirelli PZero Corsa review - 4 months later

So, I got these tires as replacements for the PS2s, and now that I've put some miles on them, I thought it would be useful to report back on what it's like to live with them for a while.

I've got about 4,000 miles with the tires, including some (but not much) track work, and the love affair is still in full bloom. Wear has been great, still plenty of tread left. I fully expect these tires not to fall into the 5-6k mile R-compound trap. I don't know about lasting as long as the PS2s, but it won't be a night and day difference in lifespan.

The grip just keeps coming. Braking performance is where it really shines. The feel of jumping on the brakes at 100+mph on the track, and just hauling you down for corner entry *never* gets old. Cornering is just as much of an improvement over the PS2. On a couple of occasions, I've followed a Corvette or two on the twisty roads around Austin, and the car will just stay with the Vette easily, even at close to 1,000 lbs heavier.

Noise isn't a problem at all, they still ride comfortably and quietly. We haven't exactly had monsoon conditions in Austin this summer, so I can't comment on wet performance, but they haven't given me a problem. It was wet on the track one day I was there, and they did fine in those conditions. Got a few nice drifts, and they were just as progressive and controllable as the PS2.

So far, I haven't found a downside, other than cost (20% higher than PS2s, give or take). If they get me to at least 9k miles, I just don't see ever going back to 'civilian' tires. They're that good.

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Totally agree, best tyre I have used so far. I am in the 6000 mile zone with plenty of tread left.

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Hello Pmac,

Can you specify what exact P Zero Corsa you have? Is it P zero Corsa System, with the front with a more open profile than the rears?
I was thinking about ordering a set of these...
What dimensions are you running?
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PMac good to read your experience.
I have been saying this for a long time but others have countered negatively.
These Pirelli's are great. The best track and DD tire period end.
Tires are always a compromise. You want good wear you forfiet good grip. You want great grip then there goes tire wear. The Pirelli PZero Corsa is the answer.
I've run them on my GT3 and GT3RS since '07. Also IMO they better than the Michelin Pilot Cups. The MPC take longer to come up to temp on the track and in the rain SUK. Did I say SUK, yes I mean SUK. As a DD tire don't get caught in a down pour.

Anyway glad to read your results. Well I guess they'll still think I'm FOS.

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I'm running the system corsa's and in standard sizing

They provide wheel rim protection as well!

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These corsas seem to hold up in the rain, I have been through some quite heavy down pours (this is the UK after all lol!) with standing water and at speed, no problems or moments so far. I am always alert though as standing water and the lack of tread grooves could be a recipe to a 'BIG' moment!!

Heavy throttle input doesn't send them spinning either.

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Hello Pmac,

Can you specify what exact P Zero Corsa you have? Is it P zero Corsa System, with the front with a more open profile than the rears?
I was thinking about ordering a set of these...
What dimensions are you running?
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I should have been more specific - it's the PZero Corsa System in stock sizes on stock rims.

Ranger, you bring up a good point. There is a more discernible difference in grip hot vs cold than with the PS2s. If I give it the beans a little from a stop in 1st gear, they'll still lose traction, but once you get just a little heat in them, they pick up a noticeable amount of grip. On the track, it takes less than a lap before I can really feel the traction come up (more front-end bite going into a corner, rear end more planted coming out), whereas I hear it takes a good 3-4 laps in the MSPC for the same effect.
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I saw an M6 Competition at my dealer yesterday, shod with Corsa's. I never thought I would say a tire is good-looking, but these actually are.
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PMac I've been advocating the Pirelli PZero Corsa's for awhile especially in the Porsche forums. Unfortunately they are pricey but
you know the saying. Best all around tire for track and street.
During a track day event if happens to rain and you're on MPSC's your session is ruined. Those things are like bars of soap on your wheels.
At least with the Pirelli's you can salvage your session and enjoy your track time and actually out handle and manuver most other cars in the wet.

Not long ago it was challenged that this tire would not be good for this car.

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So, I got these tires as replacements for the PS2s, and now that I've put some miles on them, I thought it would be useful to report back on what it's like to live with them for a while.

I've got about 4,000 miles with the tires, including some (but not much) track work, and the love affair is still in full bloom. Wear has been great, still plenty of tread left. I fully expect these tires not to fall into the 5-6k mile R-compound trap. I don't know about lasting as long as the PS2s, but it won't be a night and day difference in lifespan.

The grip just keeps coming. Braking performance is where it really shines. The feel of jumping on the brakes at 100+mph on the track, and just hauling you down for corner entry *never* gets old. Cornering is just as much of an improvement over the PS2. On a couple of occasions, I've followed a Corvette or two on the twisty roads around Austin, and the car will just stay with the Vette easily, even at close to 1,000 lbs heavier.

Noise isn't a problem at all, they still ride comfortably and quietly. We haven't exactly had monsoon conditions in Austin this summer, so I can't comment on wet performance, but they haven't given me a problem. It was wet on the track one day I was there, and they did fine in those conditions. Got a few nice drifts, and they were just as progressive and controllable as the PS2.

So far, I haven't found a downside, other than cost (20% higher than PS2s, give or take). If they get me to at least 9k miles, I just don't see ever going back to 'civilian' tires. They're that good.

What pressures are you running with at the track? I have the same tires on the OEM rims and read somewhere that the corsas are better off starting with a lower psi than the 36 stock for PS2's & Contis. Obviously every track is different and ambient/track temp factors in etc, but Im wondering what to start with as a baseline temp - was going to start at 36 and see how that works out. Worried about the fronts rolling, the conti's get shredded very quickly and I try to keep them at 36 letting air out after runs as needed.
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