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Old 26th November 2008, 19:00   #11
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I had mine replaced at 31,000 miles.
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im right around 31,5XX miles *gulp* I feel like it's going to go soon. Mishkin suggested I talk to Abid about the clutch he has...
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The SMG applies clutch better than human and the clutch should last longer than a 3-pedal manual. This assumes you aren't doing lots of accelerator pedal mashes from a dead stop, which dump the clutch at high revs.
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So whats the obvious way to distinguish that the clutch is about to go? Is it different than a normal 5 or 6 speed? I was feeling a little slippage when I would take off from first but couldnt smell anything.
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The SMG applies clutch better than human and the clutch should last longer than a 3-pedal manual. This assumes you aren't doing lots of accelerator pedal mashes from a dead stop, which dump the clutch at high revs.
I'm sure it also depends on what kind of driving you do... I suspect slow going in stop and go traffic requires more slipping of the clutch than any other kind of driving and will wear the clutch more.

When in stop and go traffic, I try to limit very slow crawling so that I'm either stationary (clutch fully engaged) or moving at 1000 rpm so the clutch is fully disengaged. Creepling along in between these two can only be bad on the clutch.

Similarly, dumping it at high revs will result in more wear too.

Those of you that had it go after 30k miles or so, how does that compare to other cars/clutches you've had in the past?
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Well, that's not really a fair evaluation of the clutch. you had the whole transmission replaced

The clutches on SMG cars last quite a long time. On the M3s they generally last 90-100k+ miles.
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clutch will last longer if you avoid slippage...

My last SMG car, a '03 M3 vert, did not get its clutch replaced until it had about 80k miles. I drove it in S6 90% of time, S5 14% (need DSC on slippery road or in the rain), and D5 1% (eating, drinking, etc.). On the M3, I used the US LC probably about 50 times or more including some BURN OUT mode. Actually I was surprised it lasted that long...

I'd recommend driving our M5s in either S5(for the MDM) or S6(for daily, race/LC) to save clutch.
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Old 27th November 2008, 00:54   #18
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You probably read some of my posts on the subject in previous threads; two complete clutch rebuilds <15,000 miles.

S.A. told me the alloys used are not up to city driving.
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You probably read some of my posts on the subject in previous threads; two complete clutch rebuilds <15,000 miles.

S.A. told me the alloys used are not up to city driving.
Wow! Have you owned manual tranny cars in the past? If so, what kind of milage did you get out of clutches on those (assuming the same kind of driving as your M5).
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Wow! Have you owned manual tranny cars in the past? If so, what kind of milage did you get out of clutches on those (assuming the same kind of driving as your M5).
Yes, I've owned other manual trans cars, the last got 85,000 miles before first clutch & throw out bearing replacement, same roads and driving style. Recently been driving ~800 h.p. NASCARs around local tracks, no clutch problems with them.

The problem is BMW uses substandard parts that don't hold up. Last time, the replacement parts were on national back order to Germany. BMW knows this is a problem and refuses to admit it or produce better bearings, bolts, sleeves, you get the picture.

I guess they think most E60 M5s will either be wrecked or re-sold w/o warranty, so they are not sweating the details.

Like the way the car drives, hate the poor durability.
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