From what I see here in the first video, the M5 is faster. In the last video, you had the momentum as you pointed out so you are ahead but the race between M5 and AA stge 3 (white M3). the M3 is clearly faster.
In the second video, Drew's M3 sure takes out the M5.
Anyways, I think what Keang24 said a few posts earlier clearly illustrates M5 and SC'd M3's strength.
I know it maybe confusing, alot of this has been, lol, Bro in the 1st vid daytime vid, the CAMERA CAR is a VF STAGE 1 @ 6psi on race fuel, about 430WHP on a dynojet Kenny's M5 is a tad faster up to 130 or so. Mspired's car is only in the 3rd run, the WHITE M3, he pulled about 1.5 CLth's on Kenny's M5, but Kenny was catching up at higher speeds.
In the 2nd vid, at night, that's my car at 7.5 psi on pump fuel about 440WHP.
Sorry 'bout the confusion, but I totally agree with you about Kenny's take on it all, after all he experienced it as well.
I know it maybe confusing, alot of this has been, lol, Bro in the 1st vid daytime vid, the CAMERA CAR is a VF STAGE 1 @ 6psi on race fuel, about 430WHP on a dynojet Kenny's M5 is a tad faster up to 130 or so. Mspired's car is only in the 3rd run, the WHITE M3, he pulled about 1.5 CLth's on Kenny's M5, but Kenny was catching up at higher speeds.
In the 2nd vid, at night, that's my car at 7.5 psi on pump fuel about 440WHP.
Sorry 'bout the confusion, but I totally agree with you about Kenny's take on it all, after all he experienced it as well.
Thanks for clarification. You and Mspired have seriously quick M3s.
It's not that you were "cocky" or not, but after Scott posted the vid of him winning ... then posted a vid of him losing, you chose to agrue that the win was more substantial as far as proving the validity of the M3's power. Again, I am not trying to single you out. I am not sure what I would do. It is easy to be defensive of your own personal investment (in this case an M3). If an M3 beat an M6 I would be skeptical (I own an M6)..
Nah, he just posted up some vids so people can see some other results, nothing more. Regardless I don't see the vids quite the same way some of you do, but I guess that's been one of the problems all along, fair enough.
This is me running Grant's M6, pretty Dark, but Aram's words say it all, I'm at 7.5 psi about 440WHP at this time, Enjoy. If grant was modded, I'd venture to say he'd get me.
Also, don't you find it unlikely that an M3 could beat a 911 turbo (0 to 60 in 3.8)? Just realistically? They are both light weight sport cars but the 911 is on another level. Not that price matters (but it does) but a $155K v/s $55K 'come on?!?... I am just saying one video does not make it reality.
Don't find it unlikely at all, 0-60 he'd smoke me on street tires, but from a roll this is me running a 997TT, more than 1 video, at 8psi and a few more bolt ons, we did quite a few runs, definently a fun night.
As Scott stated we could do a run against my Ford GT. If I should miss a gear and Scott pull away... that does not mean the M3 is putting down 650+ hp. It means I screwed up and Scott is rubbing it in my face.).
Where in those intial videos is there an indication that he hit the rev limiter? I can understand 1 shift on one pull, we all do it, but listen to the motor in those vids, nothing indicates he hit the rev limiter as far as I can tell. The driver and passangers are blown away at how Scott pulled.
As far as the followup vids, I don't consider pulling 1 car from a 3rd gear roll to the bottom of 6th gear as a beatdown. In the vids, where Q supposedly shifted better, Scott is dead even with Q, 3rd through the top of 5th gear, Q then pulls about a car in 6th and then starts to slowly walk and the vid stops, how much more do you have to go to actually put a beatdown on him, I'd say the race was about over by then, and the 1/4 mile definently was. Close vids all around, and I enjoyed them.
Here's the two vids again if you're curious, the M5 motor sounds EXACTLY the same in all the vids, no indication of hitting the rev limiter whatsoever, his momentom does not stop, it keeps going. I'd say all these races are damn close up to high enough speeds, "crushed"? Crushed is when you walk within 1 gear, it took Q 3 gears to start walk.
Nah, he just posted up some vids so people can see some other results, nothing more. Regardless I don't see the vids quite the same way some of you do, but I guess that's been one of the problems all along, fair enough.
I guess I don't understand that comment. How do you see the videos different from the rest of us?
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This is me running Grant's M6, pretty Dark, but Aram's words say it all, I'm at 7.5 psi about 440WHP at this time, Enjoy. If grant was modded, I'd venture to say he'd get me.
Thank you for the post but given that I am an M6 owner it is easy to dismiss with the mod factor... which is to say an a heavily modded minivan could beat an M6... depends on the mods.
Don't find it unlikely at all, 0-60 he'd smoke me on street tires, but from a roll this is me running a 997TT, more than 1 video, at 8psi and a few more bolt ons, we did quite a few runs, definently a fun night.
I don't own a Porsche but have driven a few stock turbo 911s. When the power comes on it's wild. I still find this unlikely but you posted the video so it must be true.
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Where in those intial videos is there an indication that he hit the rev limiter? I can understand 1 shift on one pull, we all do it, but listen to the motor in those vids, nothing indicates he hit the rev limiter as far as I can tell. The driver and passangers are blown away at how Scott pulled.
You can hear it very plainly in the first video... at least I could, just before Darren says "Oh SH!@T" The second video is hard to make out because Darren is laughing.
The Ford GT would most likely get me pump vs. pump, but on race fuel I might have chance, what did you run in the 1/4 mile? I hit 11.5 at 122MPH.
I haven't taken it to a strip. Maybe this summer. This is one of those cases where you own an M3 so you want to believe it's the most fantastic car on the road. If you had some race fuel it would be a good run huh? Do you think Scott's car will hang with the 105 he has in it now? We will see.
I guess I don't understand that comment. How do you see the videos different from the rest of us?.
I explained it all in my last post, but here's a quick summery of what I mean, I don't hear Q hitting the rev limiter AT ALL, and I don't see the follow up Vids from 3rd gear up to 6th, as an *** kicking they look pretty close through 3 gears, no doubt Q starts to pull, but he doesn't start to walk until very high speeds and when he does it's not by alot.
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Thank you for the post but given that I am an M6 owner it is easy to dismiss with the mod factor... which is to say an a heavily modded minivan could beat an M6... depends on the mods.
That's a funny vid of the minivan, I'm not sure how it's relevant, but I guess I should have been more specific about the mods, if the M6 had some bolt ons, headers, exhaust, pullies, ECU flash, etc. he'd got me at that time, that's all Bro, just showing you that it's probable and the runs were damn close, he got me in another run. I saw one today, sounded unreal, I can't open my car up right now though a new clutch just went in.
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I don't own a Porsche but have driven a few stock turbo 911s. When the power comes on it's wild. I still find this unlikely but you posted the video so it must be true. .
They are beasts, I was just showing you, not trying to say every SC'd M3 will win, clearly they won't. With an ECU flash that car would get me good, the 997TT is my favorite car, to beat one was a great feeling, no doubt it's possible that if I ran into another one he might get me, all cars are not created equal, maybe he hit the rev limiter in all those runs. A friend has a Tip, we plan on doing some runs soon, I'll be sure to post those up.
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You can hear it very plainly in the first video... at least I could, just before Darren says "Oh SH!@T" The second video is hard to make out because Darren is laughing.
We can agree to disagree, as you said people hear and see things they want, maybe we're both too biased, lol, but it's plain to me that no rev limiter was hit in either of those two vids where they claimed Q hit the limiter, watch all 4 of the vids, the vid where Darren laughs and Q eventually pulls, was never in question as they never claimed he hit it there, but fair enough, it's there for everyone to see and come to their own conclusion, it's possible Scott's car was a bit heat soaked on those last two runs or Q was in a better spot in his powerband than Scott when they started.
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I haven't taken it to a strip. Maybe this summer. This is one of those cases where you own an M3 so you want to believe it's the most fantastic car on the road. If you had some race fuel it would be a good run huh? Do you think Scott's car will hang with the 105 he has in it now? We will see.
Looking forward to seeing what you run. I'll be more specific here too, based on my 1/4 mile times on race fuel and what stock Ford GT's have ran on dragtimes, I think I have a shot at running even or edging one out at the drag strip, from a roll I probably would loose.
lol, nah I don't think the M3 is the greatest car on the road, my wife and I are about to have another baby, an M5 would be ideal and the 997TT would be in the garage if I was single and didn't have a crazy mortgage, but no doubt as Scott will tell you the E46 M3 is such a great car and modding it has been alot of fun.
Based on what I've seen with Scott's car he's a little slower than me, I haven't ran anyone on MS109 yet, only at the track, but I'm def looking forward to seeing Scott's results on race fuel against you guys.
Mark (Fubar), with all due respect, I know you're my friend and all but comparing a Ford to a BMW, and ///M division handcrafted in Germany - please give us a break, after all we all know what F.O.R.D. stands for, and FUBAR (for you) is an understatement. On race fuel and (stage 2) supercharged vs a Ford?
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If grant was modded, I'd venture to say he'd get me. 
A friend has a Tip, we plan on doing some runs soon, I'll be sure to post those up.
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