Looks like the M5 won to me. On a side note, I don't think anyone here considers a few bolt ons heavily modded (Darren's M). Now bolting on blowers or spray like the M3's...another story.
Past 170 MPH or so the M5 starting creeping on Mike's AA stage 3, no one contested that below those speeds as the owner of the M5 said, Kenny, the M3 was ahead. As of now there are no blowers or SC's for the M5 in the US, I'd say he's heavily modded for all the bolt ons and the money spent. Probably not too far off what a SC'r costs for the M3, lol.
Regardless the M5 is an incredible machine, many SC'd M3 owners gauge how well their car is doing against it, as do 335I owners, it's not an insult but a compliment, please take it as such.
Darren, I'll try and chill, when you boil it all down, it is about having fun and enjoying your car.
One of the interesting things here is how people hear what they want to hear. If Scott gets beat by an M5 then turns around and wins a race against another M5, the only thing the M3 boards see is the race Scott won. Then they all start patting themselves on the back about how great the M3 is, the power curve blah blah. I think Scott's wants you to see the big picture. All of the cars, all of the dyno's, not just his M3 or VFs M3. I'm not trying to pick on anyone, that is just the nature of these boards.
BTW, as far as I know, nothing has changed on Scott's M3 sense installation. The car is running exactly as it was the day after the install. Except for the magical DynoJet, which added some power.
One of the interesting things here is how people hear what they want to hear. If Scott gets beat by an M5 then turns around and wins a race against another M5, the only thing the M3 boards see is the race Scott won. Then they all start patting themselves on the back about how great the M3 is, the power curve blah blah. I think Scott's wants you to see the big picture. All of the cars, all of the dyno's, not just his M3 or VFs M3. I'm not trying to pick on anyone, that is just the nature of these boards.
BTW, as far as I know, nothing has changed on Scott's M3 sense installation. The car is running exactly as it was the day after the install. Except for the magical DynoJet, which added some power.
Exactly my thoughts.... by the way...my M3 is bigger than yours...What are you gonna do about it?...
Looks like the M5 won to me. On a side note, I don't think anyone here considers a few bolt ons heavily modded (Darren's M). Now bolting on blowers or spray like the M3's...another story.
That vid was one of the better runs for Kenny. In the other runs I had him by about 1-1.5CL up to about 165-170MPH, at which point he would start to creep back. Either way, I don't care if I win or lose... it's all for good fun
That vid was one of the better runs for Kenny. In the other runs I had him by about 1-1.5CL up to about 165-170MPH, at which point he would start to creep back. Either way, I don't care if I win or lose... it's all for good fun
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One of the interesting things here is how people hear what they want to hear. If Scott gets beat by an M5 then turns around and wins a race against another M5, the only thing the M3 boards see is the race Scott won. Then they all start patting themselves on the back about how great the M3 is, the power curve blah blah. I think Scott's wants you to see the big picture. All of the cars, all of the dyno's, not just his M3 or VFs M3. I'm not trying to pick on anyone, that is just the nature of these boards.
BTW, as far as I know, nothing has changed on Scott's M3 sense installation. The car is running exactly as it was the day after the install. Except for the magical DynoJet, which added some power.
I get what your saying, but honestly I don't feel that Drew and I are like that at all. We've posted many vids of me losing to M5's and never discredited anything about them. And on the reverse side, have posted vids winnign against M5's and havn't had the "cocky" attitude about it at all. These are cars, and we do this all for fun.
I get what your saying, but honestly I don't feel that Drew and I are like that at all. We've posted many vids of me losing to M5's and never discredited anything about them. And on the reverse side, have posted vids winning against M5's and haven't had the "cocky" attitude about it at all. These are cars, and we do this all for fun.
It's not that you were "cocky" or not, but after Scott posted the vid of him winning ... then posted a vid of him losing, you chose to agrue that the win was more substantial as far as proving the validity of the M3's power. Again, I am not trying to single you out. I am not sure what I would do. It is easy to be defensive of your own personal investment (in this case an M3). If an M3 beat an M6 I would be skeptical (I own an M6).
Also, don't you find it unlikely that an M3 could beat a 911 turbo (0 to 60 in 3.8)? Just realistically? They are both light weight sport cars but the 911 is on another level. Not that price matters (but it does) but a $155K v/s $55K 'come on?!?... I am just saying one video does not make it reality.
As Scott stated we could do a run against my Ford GT. If I should miss a gear and Scott pull away... that does not mean the M3 is putting down 650+ hp. It means I screwed up and Scott is rubbing it in my face.
Just consider ALL the facts. There are many being presented by several different sources.
From what I see here in the first video, the M5 is faster. In the last video, you had the momentum as you pointed out so you are ahead but the race between M5 and AA stge 3 (white M3). the M3 is clearly faster.
In the second video, Drew's M3 sure takes out the M5.
Anyways, I think what Keang24 said a few posts earlier clearly illustrates M5 and SC'd M3's strength.
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