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post #51 of 126 Old 3rd November 2010, 11:42 AM
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Hey Dallas, try these blokes MotorSport Wheels and Tyres They did a great deal on the latest P Zero's (255/35-20 & 295/30-20) $2750 to my door. They dabble in unusal brands and sizes .Paul put me onto them, they imported his 21" Pirellis.

BTW have you heard about Paul aka M5 VTEN ? TRAITOR !! sold his M5 and is now rolling around in a brand new AMG C63 !! (I have inherited the "M5 VTEN" plates (at a price)).

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After all the money he spent on his M5? I will try the tyre guys Steve!

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I like the PS2s a lot, but their walls are rather soft.

So, I was hoping I could get something with stiffer walls. The track season is here.
What sizes are you looking for?
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The standard size, 255/40/19 and 285/35/19.
Yeah, we're really hampered by the lack of available tires in this size. There are so many great tires out there that simply aren't produced in our sizes. Virtually none of the cream of the crop make them in this odd size. Nitto NT-05, Yokohama ADVAN Neova AD08, Bridgestone Potenza RE-11, Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec, etc.

Does Toyo export the new Proxes 1 to where you live?

Proxes 1 | Toyo Tires
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Yeah, we're really hampered by the lack of available tires in this size. There are so many great tires out there that simply aren't produced in our sizes. Virtually none of the cream of the crop make them in this odd size. Nitto NT-05, Yokohama ADVAN Neova AD08, Bridgestone Potenza RE-11, Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec, etc.

Does Toyo export the new Proxes 1 to where you live?

Proxes 1 | Toyo Tires
PROXES 1 | Toyo Tires
I am not sure if they do.

I shall check.
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How about Conti DW?

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Yeah, we're really hampered by the lack of available tires in this size. There are so many great tires out there that simply aren't produced in our sizes. Virtually none of the cream of the crop make them in this odd size. Nitto NT-05, Yokohama ADVAN Neova AD08, Bridgestone Potenza RE-11, Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec, etc.

Does Toyo export the new Proxes 1 to where you live?

Proxes 1 | Toyo Tires
PROXES 1 | Toyo Tires
No tires for M5? Hmmm, have you heard about Conti ExteremeContact DW Continental ExtremeContact DW Sedan&autoModClar=

These are really in the "best buy" category: close to PS2 performance but at much lower price.....
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No tires for M5? Hmmm, have you heard about Conti ExteremeContact DW Continental ExtremeContact DW Sedan&autoModClar=

These are really in the "best buy" category: close to PS2 performance but at much lower price.....
Yes, I have heard of them. The ExtremeContact DW is basically the sister tire of the ContiSportContact 3, except with a bit more groove area (blocks are smaller) for better water handling at the expense of dry performance, and slightly stiffer tread compound.

The tests bear this out too:

Tires : Test Results : The Tire Rack

Lower performance than the PS2 in dry, higher in the wet.

My assumption was that Hasan was looking to maximize dry performance. If he was looking for more of an all-season choice, the ExtremeContact DW would be a better choice than the PS2.
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Beware of Extremes if you care

I replaced my PS2's with Conti Extremes two weeks ago and they cannot balance them or at least their machine says they are balanced but the car says they are not(March 11 and again March 14, 2011) . I am using a well known performance shop who have mounted and dismounted tires for me for a decade or so. The PS2's were great but worn in the rear as usual. No balance issues for the 2 3/4 years they were on the car. E60 M5.

I am in a conversation with Tire Rack where I bought them to replace them under the 60day free trial. Wheels are stock and near perfect. They are willing to pay me less than half to mount and balance them than I paid and did not offer to pay the freight both ways, return and delivery of new tires, I'll go back to PS2's. If I kept these Contis as they are I could not have any confidence in them and would hate the car.

The un-balance problem gets worse when coming off the highway and driving slower to 55 or so. I think the tires are not constructed like the
PS2's and yet Tire Rack users give them the highest marks and they provide a video testing them and PS2's and something else. When hot they loose shape or something. Also I would add that they may not be matching the front and rears properly as the wheels and tires are different sizes.

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Guys I need your opinions and recommendations on this. I've bought the lumma clr 600 body kit for the beast and the thing is lumma people use 255/30/20 fr and 305/25/20 for the rear but i cannot find any decent tire in those sizes and considering that my car is already heavy, i don't want it to gain more weight by putting on 20's. So, I've got two questions for you, the first one is shall i put on 255/35/19 and 305-315-325-345/30/19 or would 19" look to small for the lumma widebody in height wise? The second one is which tire shall i buy? The options are Pirelli PZero Corsa System, Michelin Pilot Super Sport and Michelin Pilot Sport Cup. Btw I'm not plannig on driving the beast on rainy or cold days, so their wet performance is not an issue unless it suddenly pours down while im driving. Thanks in advance.

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Guys I need your opinions and recommendations on this. I've bought the lumma clr 600 body kit for the beast and the thing is lumma people use 255/30/20 fr and 305/25/20 for the rear but i cannot find any decent tire in those sizes and considering that my car is already heavy, i don't want it to gain more weight by putting on 20's. So, I've got two questions for you, the first one is shall i put on 255/35/19 and 305-315-325-345/30/19 or would 19" look to small for the lumma widebody in height wise? The second one is which tire shall i buy? The options are Pirelli PZero Corsa System, Michelin Pilot Super Sport and Michelin Pilot Sport Cup. Btw I'm not plannig on driving the beast on rainy or cold days, so their wet performance is not an issue unless it suddenly pours down while im driving. Thanks in advance.

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The Corsa System and PS Cup tires are both DOT-R semi-slick tires. They won't last very long, and will probably heat cycle out before they wear out. The grip is amazing on them though, and well above what you'd tend to find on a max performance summer tire.

They both also need to be brought up to temperature before they grip really well, whereas the Super Sport will have better grip than them when relatively cold. IMHO, the Corsa System tires come up to temperature slightly before the PS Cups, though the difference isn't huge.

I guess it really comes down to if you can live with the shorter lifespan and heat requirements.

For what it's worth, Tire Rack just did a comparison test of the Pilot Super Sport, Bridgestone's newest high end tire the Potenza S-04 PP, the Pirelli P-Zero, and the Continental ExtremeContact DW:

Clash of the Titans: Testing Two New Max Performance Summer Heavy Hitters

The Super Sport did really well.

However, if you look at how a DOT-R tire does against normal street tires, you can see the difference in ultimate grip (check out the cornering force graph below):

Tires : Test Results : The Tire Rack
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