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post #1 of 45 Old 17th November 2007, 02:49 PM Thread Starter
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Wind noise from closed sunroof?

Anyone having this problem.
I've tried opening it fully and closing it - but still get wind noise at around 70MPH.
Also, I believe I'm hearing a rattle from it over some small road bumps.
What's been your experience?
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The wind noise is very common. Not a lot you can do really. Closing the sunblind will help reduce this significantly. Also, try lubricating the seals around the edge using something like GummiPflege.

The rattle can be annoying and is probably unrelated to the wind noise. Usually it caused by the glass panel not siting tightly in the guide rails. Complain to the dealer and see if you can get this fixed as a warranty item.

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spray silicone all rubber seals around the window and roof.....Rattle. mmmmm not sure look around....Bret bring it over i'll look at it, bring the wife with you too...

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Slightly off topic - The sun shade on mine kept creeping open during regular driving. Dealership kept adjusting, problem kept getting worse, sun shade assembly has no factory adjustments, technician was bending parts for more friction. I kept complaining and finally they installed a new and improved track assembly that latches closed with a click and stays shut.

You might push for a replacement sunroof track assembly. Check the Lemon Law in your state; where I live, more than 3 repair attempts on 1 item in < 24 months qualifies vehicle as a lemon.


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Anyone having this problem.
I've tried opening it fully and closing it - but still get wind noise at around 70MPH.
Also, I believe I'm hearing a rattle from it over some small road bumps.
What's been your experience?
Thanx,
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Funny that you posted this, I was just about to post the same inquiry. I have been living with this annoying wind noise from the sunroof and have had it! With the sunroof closed, but with the sunroof shade open, I experience the noise starting around 48 - 50 mph and at 60 - 70 mph - it is hard to carry on a telephone conversation or an in-car conversation without being distracted by the noise. By comparison, my older 540i is much quieter, even at much higher speeds.

No rattles here, and the noise is not coming from the windows. It's actually quieter at ~50 mph with the sunroof vented than with it closed!

I spoke with my SA last week and informed him I had this issue and I felt new sunroof seals would be required. I told him about the noise being much louder than the 540i when I had that one in for service last week and he agreed - a newer (2006) $100k car should not be noisier that an old (1997) 540i with 180k miles on it.

He asked me to come in and drive the service manager around so he could listen to the noise and determine what he thinks needs to be done. There is no way the level of noise is 'normal.' I'll keep you posted with how far I get with the dealership.

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yeah..i am having the same problem with wind noise at the sunroof---i thought it was because the lying scumfu>>>s who sold me my car as new painted the roof, rear quarter and door because "something" happened". when you paint a car, i figured they removed seals

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Funny that you posted this, I was just about to post the same inquiry. I have been living with this annoying wind noise from the sunroof and have had it! With the sunroof closed, but with the sunroof shade open, I experience the noise starting around 48 - 50 mph and at 60 - 70 mph - it is hard to carry on a telephone conversation or an in-car conversation without being distracted by the noise. By comparison, my older 540i is much quieter, even at much higher speeds.

No rattles here, and the noise is not coming from the windows. It's actually quieter at ~50 mph with the sunroof vented than with it closed!

I spoke with my SA last week and informed him I had this issue and I felt new sunroof seals would be required. I told him about the noise being much louder than the 540i when I had that one in for service last week and he agreed - a newer (2006) $100k car should not be noisier that an old (1997) 540i with 180k miles on it.

He asked me to come in and drive the service manager around so he could listen to the noise and determine what he thinks needs to be done. There is no way the level of noise is 'normal.' I'll keep you posted with how far I get with the dealership.
Im having the same noise at around 70, was going to also ask the dealer on next service coming up soon.
ebgoz- like to know what you find, Im bringing to stevens creek bmv, you are not going there are you?

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I had exactly the same problem - wind noise at 70-85 mph that made me close the roof at highway speeds. I noticed that when I pushed up on the front edge hard, then noise went away. On long trips, I would jam a towel between the inside roof and the sunroof to put enough force on it to eliminate the noise.

I took it into my SA, and explained the problem, and he made an adjustment, but I still had the noise. Then I rode with my SA so he could hear the noise, and showed him how it went away when I pushed on the leading edge. It took him a full day to get rid of it by adjusting the roof, then road testing, but he did, and the sunroof is absolutely quiet now.

I didn't get into the details of what he did, but there is evidently a series of adjustments you can make to the sunroof to change the angle and/or force it makes against the front edge when closing. It can be fixed, and if your SA is good enough, they should be able to do it.

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I had exactly the same problem - wind noise at 70-85 mph that made me close the roof at highway speeds. I noticed that when I pushed up on the front edge hard, then noise went away. On long trips, I would jam a towel between the inside roof and the sunroof to put enough force on it to eliminate the noise.

I took it into my SA, and explained the problem, and he made an adjustment, but I still had the noise. Then I rode with my SA so he could hear the noise, and showed him how it went away when I pushed on the leading edge. It took him a full day to get rid of it by adjusting the roof, then road testing, but he did, and the sunroof is absolutely quiet now.

I didn't get into the details of what he did, but there is evidently a series of adjustments you can make to the sunroof to change the angle and/or force it makes against the front edge when closing. It can be fixed, and if your SA is good enough, they should be able to do it.
It's seals and alignment. Get the alignment right and the seals will most likely take care of themselves. It doesn't hurt to lube the seals with the Gummipflege (I believe I got some of this product from the dealer SA). The rattle is most likely part of the sunroof linkage mechanism that is slack do to the misalignment of the glass. If the glass is in proper location everything in the linkage should be under load and tight. If you look at your sunroof from the outside you will probably be able to see a disproportionate rise or drop around the perimeter @ the seal realative to the surface of the roof..........that's where the problem is located. Been there, done it.

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Im having the same noise at around 70, was going to also ask the dealer on next service coming up soon.
ebgoz- like to know what you find, Im bringing to stevens creek bmv, you are not going there are you?
Hi Phil-
No, not Stevens Creek, I'm still taking my car to Prestige Imports in Santa Rosa - it's convenient and where I bought it (not because they are close to being the best in the bay area).
Living in Sonoma County has its advantages and disadvantages...........................

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