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Old 22nd June 2007, 17:07   #1
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BMW Motorsport Emblem

I am searching for a downloadable copy of the old BMW Motorsport emblem. This is the first version with the roundell in the center and the half rings around it in the M colors. I plan to put it on the navigation screen. I would rather see it at startup.
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Old 22nd June 2007, 18:09   #2
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I am searching for a downloadable copy of the old BMW Motorsport emblem. This is the first version with the roundell in the center and the half rings around it in the M colors. I plan to put it on the navigation screen. I would rather see it at startup.
Try this http://w6rec.com/duane/bmw/emblem/emblem13.JPG

from this interesting site http://w6rec.com/duane/bmw/emblem/index.htm
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I read somewhere that the bmw emblem is not a propeller... but the colors of bavarian flag
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Old 24th June 2007, 19:03   #4
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I read somewhere that the bmw emblem is not a propeller... but the colors of bavarian flag
I think it's both. The pattern is a spinning propeller (BMW started out making airplane engines). Blue and white are Bav colors.
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There is a good amount of controversy about the actual inspiration for the logo. I have heard that the spinning propeller was created by marketing later as an explanation. Anyone have more insight on this?
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There is a good amount of controversy about the actual inspiration for the logo. I have heard that the spinning propeller was created by marketing later as an explanation. Anyone have more insight on this?

The very name Roundel is of military origins. Every country's air force has a unique roundel to identify them as military aircraft. THe pic below is the United Kingdom's Roundel

Certainly the blue and white colors are from Bavaria, the southern region of Germany.

And of course, BMW started with airplane engines, they had an awesome engine that was used in the Fockwolfe 190......so all the rumors about how the BMW Roundel came about are probably true.



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Dr. Florian Triebel, writes an article called "Origin of the BMW Logo - Fact and Fiction" which offers alternate explanations of the logo origin, alleging one account as a myth and the other as historically plausible.

It has been said that the propeller design interpretation came (circa 1929) after the logo was already in use (circa 1917)...
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And of course, BMW started with airplane engines, they had an awesome engine that was used in the Fockwolfe 190......so all the rumors about how the BMW Roundel came about are probably true.
Sorry to have strayed so far off topic, but the Rolls Royce Merlin was better! Anyway, the BMW blue & white roundel was in use long before the FW190 engine was put together. It was used on Fokker D VII aircraft of WWI, I believe. I only know that because I have a photo of a WWI era BMW aircraft powerplant from the Smithsonian WWI exhibit with the familiar roundel.

"In 1916, two companies, Gustav Otto's Flugmaschinenfabrik (Aeroplane Factory) and Karl Rapp's Flugwerke Deutschland, merged to form the Bayerische Flugzeugwerke (Bavarian Aeroplane Works). Initially this company designed and manufactured aeroplane engines. The Bayerische Flugzeugwerke was renamed the Bayerische Motoren Werke (Bavarian Motor Works, BMW) in 1917 by Karl Rapp and Max Friz. Its new logo grew out of the older Rapp logo but used Bavaria's blue and white colors. Later the logo was associated with a spinning propeller as a marketing tool.[1] The roundel is still used today on all BMW motorcycles and automobiles. A former Daimler employee, Joseph Popp became BMW's managing director. Aeroplane engines, especially a V-12 model, were BMW's primary output.

With funding from the German air force, BMW began manufacturing the Fokker DV II, one of the best aircraft of that time. However the fortune of the company turned in 1919 with the end of WWI and the signing of the Treaty of Versailles. Germany was forbidden to manufacture airplanes. Reluctantly Max Friz, BMW's head designer, turned to motorcycle and automobile engines to sustain the company. Within four weeks, Friz designed the now-legendary opposing flat twin cylinder engine, known today as the "boxer" engine." Wikipedia



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Sorry to have strayed so far off topic, but the Rolls Royce Merlin was better! Anyway, the BMW blue & white roundel was in use long before the FW190 engine was put together. It was used on Fokker D VII aircraft of WWI, I believe. I only know that because I have a photo of a WWI era BMW aircraft powerplant from the Smithsonian WWI exhibit with the familiar roundel.

"In 1916, two companies, Gustav Otto's Flugmaschinenfabrik (Aeroplane Factory) and Karl Rapp's Flugwerke Deutschland, merged to form the Bayerische Flugzeugwerke (Bavarian Aeroplane Works). Initially this company designed and manufactured aeroplane engines. The Bayerische Flugzeugwerke was renamed the Bayerische Motoren Werke (Bavarian Motor Works, BMW) in 1917 by Karl Rapp and Max Friz. Its new logo grew out of the older Rapp logo but used Bavaria's blue and white colors. Later the logo was associated with a spinning propeller as a marketing tool.[1] The roundel is still used today on all BMW motorcycles and automobiles. A former Daimler employee, Joseph Popp became BMW's managing director. Aeroplane engines, especially a V-12 model, were BMW's primary output.

With funding from the German air force, BMW began manufacturing the Fokker DV II, one of the best aircraft of that time. However the fortune of the company turned in 1919 with the end of WWI and the signing of the Treaty of Versailles. Germany was forbidden to manufacture airplanes. Reluctantly Max Friz, BMW's head designer, turned to motorcycle and automobile engines to sustain the company. Within four weeks, Friz designed the now-legendary opposing flat twin cylinder engine, known today as the "boxer" engine." Wikipedia



My mistake, I didn't mean to imply BMW started airplane engines with the Fockwolfe 190.....the BMW Roundel was on their 328 which was around in the mid 1930's.

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