Kaputt according to the German dealer. Beacause of slipping clutch and because ti is a two mass fly wheel, hard shifts makes the two masses to no be a fixed to each other as they used to be when new.
It looks pretty scored. Most people do not like to re-condition these wheels either..
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Quick ? when you get your clutch replace thru the dealership do they normally change the flywheel? ( i have aftermarket warranty and the flywheel is covered i'm having this thoughts of getting the clutch replace by an indie shop to save $ but if the flywheel is fried then my bill will go up )...
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I think with some clutch slippage and / or hard shifts it always best to change that as well. You donät want to have a NEW slipping clutch and dissassemble everything again. Now it is gripping very good with DSC kicking in between 3rd/4th gear shifts
FYI the flywheel is "AT" and is sent back to Munich when you receive the new one.
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Originally Posted by Laidback
Quick ? when you get your clutch replace thru the dealership do they normally change the flywheel? ( i have aftermarket warranty and the flywheel is covered i'm having this thoughts of getting the clutch replace by an indie shop to save $ but if the flywheel is fried then my bill will go up )...
Quick ? when you get your clutch replace thru the dealership do they normally change the flywheel? ( i have aftermarket warranty and the flywheel is covered i'm having this thoughts of getting the clutch replace by an indie shop to save $ but if the flywheel is fried then my bill will go up )...
When the dealer did my clutch under goodwill they threw ina new flywheel as well.
In my opinion a fly wheel is just a big disk brake. Yes you can recondition them, but new is always a better choice!
-Ryan
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Yes you can recondition them, but new is always a better choice!
-Ryan
+1 I just got of the phone on my aftermarket warranty and they told me it won't be covered by warranty if the damage was cause by the clutch (scored flywheel) i'll try to get more info tomorrow and try to get it in writing...
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" Despite its supercar attributes, the M5 still doubles as a soberly practical, spacious saloon - only with the ability to scare four passengers in comfort all the way to the local coronary unit". Top Gear
FYI I have Europlus warranty and I would never think of getting it on warranty, since it is a expendable item just as the clutch. And I suspect if I did granny shifts or stopped driving the car after it started slipping I would noit need a new flywheel.
FYI I have Europlus warranty and I would never think of getting it on warranty, since it is a expendable item just as the clutch. And I suspect if I did granny shifts or stopped driving the car after it started slipping I would noit need a new flywheel.
From what I understand, with the M5's power and its weight, given the tiny size of our clutch, some scoring is unavoidable with "spirited driving". This applies even if you clutch is in good condition.
I seem to have a good reputation with me SA, he replaced my flywheel eventhough it was scored up pretty good.
This is only my experience, so who knows.
-Ryan
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RA: Breaking in SAC clutch
Issue status (03/2002)
Break in the friction linings of the clutch by applying light to medium loads, in the same way as for brake linings. This preconditioning creates a carbon layer between lining and metal friction surface which in the end generates the necessary coefficient of friction. Breaking in can take the form of either normal driving with many gearshifts or a specific breaking-in program on gentle gradients.
"Normal" driving will not damage the clutch. "Normal" driving conditions involve drive-off speeds of up to approx. 2500 rpm on a medium gradient, e.g. when driving onto a transporter. Normal driving off on a level surface at speeds up to approx. 2000 rpm are likewise sufficient.
Sporting driving maneuvers will destroy a new clutch! These include driving maneuvers at high differential speeds, overlaps or very high drive-off speeds, e.g. when driving onto a transporter.
When a vehicle is moved "normally", an empirically established figure of approx. 800-1000 gearshifts is applicable to an optimally broken-in lining.
Please conduct the following breaking-in program in order to avoid later customer complaints:
* specifically for M5 and Z8 vehicles
Breaking-in program for approx. 30 km on road
Vehicle subject to "moderate" shifting processes
Drive off at max. 2000 rpm; upshift 1->2, 2->3, 3->4; upshift at 3500-4000 rpm, downshift 4->3, 3->2, 2->1, downshift at 2000 rpm
Drive off 3 to 5 times on a gentle gradient up to approx. 12%, drive-off speed max. 2000 rpm
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When there is a new clutch installed, it must be run-in properly, or it will have a very short life-span.
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