Originally Posted by wilsodh

I could be wrong, but if memory serves, Blue Thunder has a pix. He has since had his s/c'd beast sleaved.

Dave

Originally Posted by highboostingm3m5

Thanks!

So...did you ever get an explanation as to why DA chose to sleeve your block? I was told that I am assuming too much with this. It is true that I have never built a V8 motor for boost so I have no technical knowledgen from experience on the subject. That is why I am asking for help from someone who does or had it explained via someone who does.

Originally Posted by highboostingm3m5

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeexcellent!

Thank you very much for the information! Going to pass this along to the bf.c fi thread as well.

Since HPF has the amazing AEM guru tuner in their side pocket...they might just pull it off but only time will tell. I am eager to find out!

Originally Posted by wilsodh

Hey Cam.. glad to help. I'm all for pushing the envelope! I'm no expert, but given the S62 failures we've seen to date, the OEM pistons would definitely worry me if someone were to slap on twin turbos and attempt 1000hp on stock internals. Maybe the aem guru could do it and even get off some dyno runs to impress the bf crowd, but I'd wonder about the wisdom of such a lopsided set up... seems like you'd have to be very careful and it would be asking for trouble. The cost of a broken engine could have initially gone into strengthening the internals with components designed to take such abuse. But hey, its only money right?!

Originally Posted by wilsodh

Btw, who is this 'aem guru' you keep referencing?

Dave

Originally Posted by HorsepowerFreak

#1) people running with our turbo kits have exactly the same components. Exactly the same turbo manifolds, piping, turbo's, wastegates, wastegate springs, intercoolers, intercooler dimensions, piping dimensions, intake manifolds, boost control solenoids, map sensors, intake air temp sensors, downpipes, electronics, the same motor, etc. As each and every car will have the same components, the only variations will be climate, altitude, barometric pressure, temperature etc. The tune we provide will work with each and every car.
#2) The person that designed and built the ECU, and tuned this exact setup is the same guy that built 80% of AEM's EMS applications, and did nearly 100% of the calibrations on those EMS's. He also trained and certified most o f the AEM tuners in the country. He is the one that set up this kit to run flawlessly in this car, and I wouldn't trust anyone else to tune an unknown kit in my BMW.
#3) This engine management system runs on our own version of software that provides enhanced capabilities for the dual vanos and drive by wire. Nobody else knows how to program this engine management system and I have no intention of training people so they can attempt to improve on what has already been done.
#4) Effective factory driveability tuning is arguably 1,000 times harder to do than power tuning. Most of the stand alone vehicles I've ridden or driven do not drive like they were intented from the factory. Ours does. Only the best of the best tuners can take driveability tuning to the level of a factory tune and that is what everyone that purchases this kit will get.
#5) Our EMS datalogs everything that occurs in the vehicle. In fact, for drivability tuning, we drive the car around for days, then unplug the ECU and tune the ECU in our offices off the datalog. That is the only way to effectively tune every part of the every map, every temperature, every gear, startup hot and cold, various engine loads, accell and decel fueling, tip in, etc. etc. etc. There are nearly 10,000 individual parameters that need to be set and there aren't very many optimal configurations. The onboard datalogging also enables a customer to overnight his EMS to us, have us diagnose the problem, fix it and overnight it back.
#6) Each kit comes with a keyed race fuel switch that instantly recalibrates the EMS to target much more boost, advanced timing and provide a safe 100rwhp increase in power when race fuel is used. This mitigates the need for a driver to bring along a laptop and custom tunes when they go to the track as a simple key switch will switch the tune for them.
#7) We have tuned this car and the knock noise table to provide a safe and reliable 750hp on race fuel and 600hp on pump gas. This requires many things to be set up optimally, and requires tuning on lesser grades of fuel and adding knock protection to ensure someone who loans their M3 to their friend who puts a poor grade of fuel in the car and gives it back doesn't end up ruining the engine.
#8) We have pushed the limits of this engine and feel that 600rwhp (750hp) is safe with race fuel. We know the car can be pushed further and for those we will be providing a stage 2 and stage 3.
We have invested 1.5 years and an "enormous" amount of money in this kit. We are talking about 750hp on a stock 3.2L NA motor and stock exhaust. If anyone has done this on a stock NA M3 motor, please chime in. Without knowing anything about our kit and the engine management system, to assume that a customer could optimize and improve what we've done is not an option I feel worth considering at this point. To that end, and the 8 points I mentioned above, I highly doubt an owner of this kit will be complaining.
Take care,
Chris.

Originally Posted by Kelster72

This also begs the question of when you are going to offer the turbo M3 package for sale?

Ray