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"Control, Vision, Determination" These are the three fundamental components of the new generation race car driver!! SPEED is a by-product! -Memphis Raines
FWIW, some people on the M3 board have reported that the update software is buggy and won't load on some cars, or the cars run poorly afterwards. The consensus there seems to be not to do the update right away unless you are up for registration renewal and need the smog test. They want to wait a few months to make sure the update software bugs are worked out first, especially if it requires reflashing of aftermarket software (other than Dinan). Unfortunately, I think mine is due this January, but I may try holding off as late as I can this year in case the bugs affect M5s, too.
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Need4Spd
'01 M5/UUC SSK + Rogue WSR/RE Tranny Mounts+Royal Purple Synchromax/Axxis ULT Pads/StopTech SS Lines/TC Design from BeastPower Anti-roll Bar Brackets/Dinan LtWtFlywheel and Stage 3 suspension/Goodyear F1 Asymmetrics/Vines thrust arms/IATS relocation/10w-60 oil/hardwired Escort 9500i/Euro Armrest/TEC Cupholder/IceLink/PowerChip 91 Gold/TUBIs!/Strong Strut/BSW Stage 1/BT/Angel iBrights 3.0
'05 M3 Imola Cabrio 6MT, Nav, HK
"Is it the sounds that make a BMW a BMW? A BMW is designed to be heard, felt, experienced. So our engines sing. Our steering talks back. And we insist on offering manual transmissions in nearly all our models for drivers who crave them. The result is an almost telepathic oneness with the car. Just as surely as you can hear a BMW, a BMW hears you."
Since the M3 has stock S/W, it shouldn't be an issue at all.
I think I'll update the M5 (as well as getting some other things fixed) and then drive it for a bit to see how much I can feel the difference without the PC software. Then I'll contact PC and get the upgrade re-installed...
I checked with my Service Advisor, Brian at BMW of Sterling (VA). They will need my car for a day and a half to do the program upgrade. Then I will have to do the header install and PC93 reprograming that it will need anyway.
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2002 Sterling Gray, Black and Aluminum interior
UUC Short Shifter & DSSR
UUC Clutch Stop
UUC Transmission Supports
UUC UltraSmooth CeraMetallic Clutch/LWF
Active Autowerks Cold Ram Air Intake - Modified
Air Plenum Heat Shield, 1700 degree black Jet-Hot coating
Alpine amp for JL Audio Sub Woofers
UFMotorsport S62 Intake Air Temp Sensor Relocation
Dinan Stage II Suspension
Dinan 3.45 Rear Diff. Gear Set
Dual JL Audio 10" Sub Woofers
K40/Laser Defuserplus, hidden install
K-Mac Adjustable Caster/Camber Plates
Kelleners Aluminum Sport Pedals & Foot Rest
MB Quart speaker replacement
NAV MKIV DVD
StopTech SS Brakelines
Axxis Ultimate Brake Pads
EvoSport Performance Underdrive Pulley Set
TubiStyle Cat-Back Exhaust
Power Chip 93 Gold - Modified & Sport 'On'
Perma-Cool Electric Engine Fan (no mechanical fan!)
Michelin Pilot Sport II Tires (front/rear stock sizes)
Royal Purple Synchromax Transmission Oil
Red Line 75W90 Differential Gear Oil
Sirius Radio receiver
SS Headers, EVO High Flow CATS
Zionsville Aluminum Radiator w/ Dual Speed Fan
FWIW, some people on the M3 board have reported that the update software is buggy and won't load on some cars, or the cars run poorly afterwards. The consensus there seems to be not to do the update right away unless you are up for registration renewal and need the smog test. They want to wait a few months to make sure the update software bugs are worked out first, especially if it requires reflashing of aftermarket software (other than Dinan). Unfortunately, I think mine is due this January, but I may try holding off as late as I can this year in case the bugs affect M5s, too.
So I just had the Beast in on Friday for a CD Changer. The $tealer did the update automatically. I had spoken to both the Dealer and my Indy about reflashing the software, both said no. However when I got the car back, it was running like CRAP idle felt rough, no power, throttle was not really responsive, even with sport on. Immediately called the dealer and left them a message about it. I am hoping the car will adapt over the next 25 miles? Has this happened to anyone else?
thanks,
gavin
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02 Sterling Grey with Extended Caramel Leather
AA Cold Air/ Brake Ducts, SS Headers, Mystery Short Shift, Dinan Stage III w/ JRZ, Tubi Competition Exhaust, Dinan Stage 4 software, Hardwire V1, XM, Clear Bra.
2010 X5 diesel, dialy driver, loaded
2004 X5 4.8is Sold
2005 X5 RIP
1995 E36 325i Sold
1989 E30 325i RIP
1972 3.0s Sold
The things you regret to find out when not reviewing the message board first.
So last week- I had a fuel gauge problem. Took the beast to the local $tealer, but also got the Recall notice in the mail the night before. Told them to do that as well (my friggin mistake not to read the board first), not knowing the Dinan Software would be erased.
I let the lady drive the car last sunday while aimlessly going no where in particular- The car had the sudden jerky "is it out of gas" "um... easy on the clutch and give it a bit more gas...." at around 2000 rpm.... Note: she isn't a rookie manual driver....
Last night took the beast out to stretch her legs since shes been in bed in her garage the past few days- but after warming up the car and traveling about 5-6 miles, as I turned left- again about 2000 rpm, the same hesitation... like i was a rookie with the clutch..... or sippin fumes...(which i wasn't)
I don't know if I should be hoping its the stupid software update, or if its the MAF's.
Since I have to take the beast back to the $tealer Friday (they didn't have my fuel gauge in stock) I will definitely moan to them about this... I definitely want my Dinan Software back- It hasn't even been a month...
Stats on beast 03 with 39,900... That I was told by a couple inspectors before purchasing, that this beast was one of the cleanest and well kept) so thumbs up on purchasing it...
I'ma go read the million mile thread(s) on MAF issues.
I just recieved my notice in today's mail. As most of you know, my car is currently at the Morgan Hill, CA Dinan building, getting the S3 conversion. I'll have to call Dinan tomorrow and talk with them to see what they have to say about my car's situation, since Dinan does "special" software programing when the blower is installed. i would think that the BMW DME recall/reflash would wipe away the custom S/C software program from the car, true???
Last, Im surprised that no one posed this question, can this recall affect the overall power of our M5 motor. Can this reduce the horse power?
Thank you.
Robert
I just recieved my notice in today's mail. As most of you know, my car is currently at the Morgan Hill, CA Dinan building, getting the S3 conversion. I'll have to call Dinan tomorrow and talk with them to see what they have to say about my car's situation, since Dinan does "special" software programing when the blower is installed. i would think that the BMW DME recall/reflash would wipe away the custom S/C software program from the car, true???
Last, Im surprised that no one posed this question, can this recall affect the overall power of our M5 motor. Can this reduce the horse power?
Thank you.
Robert
Yes the DME recall will wipe away any aftermarket software in it.