Go Back   The Unofficial BMW M5 Messageboard (m5board.com) > BMW M5, M5 Touring, M6 and Z8 Forums > E39 M5 and E52 Z8 Discussion

E39 M5 and E52 Z8 Discussion 1998-2003 Advertiser's Forum

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 2nd August 2001, 08:24   #1
robert47
Fellow Member (>400)
 
robert47's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Danville, California, USA

Garage: 2000 M5 LeMans Blue

Sales Feedback: (0)

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Heel / Toe shifting

This was a post on the Tracquest website by Todd Serotta ( the organizer of Tracquest and a very accomplished driver who sponsers great track events. I hope it is of value to those who wish to become better drivers. - Robert
Todd writes;
Here's the best way to learn, and the good news is, it's on the street, not
the track. So, by the time you get to a track event, you should have it down
pretty well if you practice.

First, you need to learn the timing of the blip. The easiest way to do this
is to do it while downshifting without braking, so you can use your left
foot on the clutch and your right foot to blip the throttle. This is also
referred to as "matching revs." Every time you downshift, try it. The only
difference between this and regular downshifting is that after you've put
the shifter in the the lower gear, just before you release your foot off of
the clutch, you blip the throttle with your right foot to bring your rpms up
to at least where they'll be in the lower gear. For example, if you're at
4000 rpms and you're going to downshift from 4th to 3rd, which will (I'm
making a rough guess) bring your rpms up to 5000 when you let off of the
clutch, you need to blip the throttle to get your rpms to at least 5000.
6000 is fine too, as they'll just drop right away to 5000, where your
gearing will put them. The critical thing is timing: you need to blip and
let your foot off of the clutch before your rpms fall below where they'll be
in the lower gear - in the example, 5000.

Once you have that down, you can add the complexity of the heel-toe
maneuver. You're doing the same thing, except you're braking at the same
time, so your right foot isn't available to blip. Therefore, you need to use
your right foot to do both, which means leaving part of it on the brake,
pressing hard, and part of it on the gas pedal, doing the blip. There are
two basic techniques, and you need to do what's most comfortable for you
based on your pedal set up. One is to twist your ankle counter-clockwise and
blip with your heel (which I always do if the pedal set up allows it) or
roll your foot over so that the left half is still applying the brake and
the right half is blipping (which I only do if I can't do the twist
maneuver). Just make sure you're very comfortable with the timing of the
blip from the first exercise before you try this, or you won't be able to do
it.

One additional piece of advice if you use the ankle twist (heel) method.
With most pedal set ups, if you brake as you always do, with the ball of
your foot on the center of the brake pedal, the distance between the portion
of your foot on the brake pedal and your heel is too great, and your heel
winds up on the very bottom of the gas pedal, making it very difficult, or
even impossible, to blip. In this case, put the center of your foot, below
the ball, on the center of the brake pedal. This will put the heel of your
foot in the center of the gas pedal, making it very easy to blip. I had an
instructional lunch several months ago with Pat Overell to help her with her
heel-toeing. She was twisting her heel, but wasn't aware of this tip. Once
she tried it, it made things a lot easier for her.

The really good news is that aside from making your shifts smoother at the
track, matching revs while downshifting (whether just blipping or
heel-toeing) is easier on your drivetrain and will make it last longer. It
also sounds really cool if you have a nifty exhaust! :-)

Finally, don't confuse heel-toeing with double clutching. Double clutching
involves first putting the car in neutral when you downshift, taking your
foot off of the clutch, putting it back on the clutch and then putting the
car into the lower gear. This was done many years ago when synchros weren't
so great. There's no need to do this on any modern street car, and it will
slow your shifts if you try, even if you become fairly adept at doing it. "
robert47 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post! Add this post to your Facebook Profile Add this post to MySpaceStumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 2nd August 2001, 08:30   #2
Shenandoah
Member, Sport: Off DSC: On (>50 posts)
 
Shenandoah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Linden, Virginia

Garage: 2001 M5 Imola Red

Sales Feedback: (0)

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Cool, but no need to heal and toe with a thirteen inch shoe. Toe and toe works great!
Shenandoah is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post! Add this post to your Facebook Profile Add this post to MySpaceStumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 2nd August 2001, 08:34   #3
Shenandoah
Member, Sport: Off DSC: On (>50 posts)
 
Shenandoah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Linden, Virginia

Garage: 2001 M5 Imola Red

Sales Feedback: (0)

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Well, I guess that should be "heel" and not "heal"

Otherwise we might be talking about the "Heal and tow" manouver which Gustav can tell us about.
Shenandoah is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post! Add this post to your Facebook Profile Add this post to MySpaceStumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
OT: difficult shifting BMW's, (E36 M3 in particular), also E39 M5, suggestions? Ra34 E39 M5 and E52 Z8 Discussion 7 12th May 2003 20:03
Do you notice that when the clutch is let out after shifting into third, that it..... Turbo323i E39 M5 and E52 Z8 Discussion 2 24th April 2002 05:50
Difficulty shifting - fixed. Noka E39 M5 and E52 Z8 Discussion 5 21st April 2002 00:11
figure i ask...what is toe and heel? young-nyc E39 M5 and E52 Z8 Discussion 17 2nd August 2001 20:16
Heel and toe Omar E39 M5 and E52 Z8 Discussion 0 19th December 2000 03:39

eXTReMe Tracker

All times are GMT +2. The time now is 06:19.


Everything Copyright 2000-2008. Do not use ANYTHING from this site without written permission. All images, graphics, sound files, video files and text appearing on this web site are the exclusive property of m5board.com and are protected under international copyright laws. All images, graphics, sound files, video files and text on this site are for on-screen and on-site viewing and listening only. No part of this web site may be reproduced, copied, saved, stored, manipulated, or used in any form for personal or commercial purposes without the prior written permission of m5board.com. Use of any image or graphic as the basis for another photographic concept or illustration is a violation of the copyright. Any copyright infringement will be prosecuted to the full extent of federal and international copyright laws. M5board.com is an enthusiast board and we don't condone any dangerous activity. Our airfield events are completely safe based on years of experience, we conduct them during clear visibility with mature participants that have several years of experience with high-performance automobiles, large unobstructed run-off zones on sealed off private former military airbases and we clearly mark the braking zones. If inexperienced with high speed driving we do not recommend organizing your own event but attending a high-performance driving school. The use of the term "BMW" on this site is for reference only, and does not imply any connection between m5board.com and BMW AG or BMW North America.
Page generated in 0.12323 seconds with 11 queries