E39 M5 vs 2003 Z06??? - Page 4

jimmyz2 · 15th January 2006, 23:53

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Originally Posted by Jayson

Unless your gonna drop $70,000 on the S3 I dont think it's gonna matter.

Dinan is not the only game in town(if we are talking no warrenty).

Jayson · 16th January 2006, 00:38

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Originally Posted by jimmyz2

Dinan is not the only game in town(if we are talking no warrenty).

Discovery is the other one and for that your looking around 40-50k.

I know AA is working on one along with CA at the same time. Neither is out and no updates have been given in a long while after alot of large claims where put out before even starting their projects.

Or is their another comany I missed?

palantirion · 16th January 2006, 03:55

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Originally Posted by Jayson

Drop $70,000 on the S3 to keep up with the Z06 all he's gonna do is drop 10,000 and roast your car. Pick what you want, ok quality with pure power and two seats. Or a 4 door luxery car that's pretty quick.

No, you can spend $30,000 on the S2 and essentially match the Z06.

The Z06 could always add more power, but there's not much left to do on a Z06 to improve handling that doesn't make it ride like a buckboard. So you could go with an S2 to match him now, and if he mods his you can always pull your trump card: comfort and style WITH speed.

Also, don't forget StopTech brakes, Brembos are crap.

Jayson · 16th January 2006, 04:18

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Originally Posted by palantirion

No, you can spend $30,000 on the S2 and essentially match the Z06.

The Z06 could always add more power, but there's not much left to do on a Z06 to improve handling that doesn't make it ride like a buckboard. So you could go with an S2 to match him now, and if he mods his you can always pull your trump card: comfort and style WITH speed.

Also, don't forget StopTech brakes, Brembos are crap.

s2 would make it better, but he would still be behind the z06.

Ive seen some z06's that handle pretty well and dont ride to bad. Even moded teh m5's handling is behind the z06's.

I woun't say the stoptech's are much better than the stock brakes either.

palantirion · 16th January 2006, 05:19

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Originally Posted by Jayson

s2 would make it better, but he would still be behind the z06.
Ive seen some z06's that handle pretty well and dont ride to bad. Even moded teh m5's handling is behind the z06's.

-Not in acceleration at all, they are pretty much tied in 0-60, 0-100, 1/4 mile and the M5-S2 has a higher top speed. They are close enough in handling that the driver would make more of a difference than the car.

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Originally Posted by Jayson

I woun't say the stoptech's are much better than the stock brakes either.

-They are much better than stock. Not so much in 60-0 stopping distance, but in feel and precision...which leads to better control and therefore shorter stopping distances in all situations not involving stomping. They also don't fade like the stock brakes and don't warp like the Brembos made for M5s.

Beamer_usa · 16th January 2006, 05:37

Throw a back seat/and two more doors in the Z06 and them race it

Jayson · 16th January 2006, 15:22

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Originally Posted by palantirion

-Not in acceleration at all, they are pretty much tied in 0-60, 0-100, 1/4 mile and the M5-S2 has a higher top speed. They are close enough in handling that the driver would make more of a difference than the car.

-They are much better than stock. Not so much in 60-0 stopping distance, but in feel and precision...which leads to better control and therefore shorter stopping distances in all situations not involving stomping. They also don't fade like the stock brakes and don't warp like the Brembos made for M5s.

As I recall the S2 ran a 12.7...that .3 behind a stock z06.

I have the stoptechs, and mine have no initial bite just like stock I would not say they are much better than stock just a touch better sadly enough. I would agree they woun't fade on the track though.

MAH · 16th January 2006, 15:48

I have never understood why you would compare these two cars. They are intirely different animals. My partner had a 2002 Z06 and I can tell you right now that your going to lose in most situations against this car if the driver has any skill at all.

That being said, the M5 was a much higher quality auto and much more comforitable ride, although the seats in the Z06 were better than the M5. The exhaust note alone in the Z06 would cause me to either lose my hearing or cause road rage after a very short time.

The M5 is a very good happy medium here, but if you want to operate at the top 1/10 performance level and expect that you will best the new Z06, that is a bet you do not want to take.

Mark

MINENCE · 16th January 2006, 16:26

[quote=I heard stories about the M5 hitting 185mph... If the top speed of the corvette is 175mph, there must be a point where both cars are about equal and eventually the M5 walks away? What do you guys think?/QUOTE]
In about an hour later!

Julian64 · 16th January 2006, 16:59

Nope, I wouldn't be overly woriied. My other car is a TVR Cerbera. Possibly even got the legs of the Z06. Its 2425lbs and 400bhp.

http://www.jsread.com/tvr/quartermile.htm

Use the above site and run a Cerbera 4.5 against an M5.

Thing is when I sit in my Cerb and my father uses my M5 its a lot closer than the times on the page would suggest in real world driving. Light cars with powerful engines can have significant trouble transmitting it all to the road, especially if the road has any bumps, curves or is damp. The M5 will hit its predicted times fairly reliably.

I would be inclined to believe your car is a real world match for that car in anything other than perfect conditions and a good degree of driver skill. Paper figures for performance pale compared to how you can out it on the road in the first 5 seconds.