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        Old 13th December 2005, 01:44   #1 (permalink)
        Absinthe
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        Vin/ car fax help

        Can anyone with car fax and/or extreme knowledge of how these vins work please divulge any of the pertinante information that comes up, ie: inservice data, how last sold, build data, etc...

        Vins are:
        WBSDE9341YBZ96391

        and

        WBSDE9342YBZ96710
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        Old 13th December 2005, 03:20   #2 (permalink)
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        Re: Vin/ car fax help

        Quote:
        Originally Posted by Absinthe
        Can anyone with car fax and/or extreme knowledge of how these vins work please divulge any of the pertinante information that comes up, ie: inservice data, how last sold, build data, etc...

        Vins are:
        WBSDE9341YBZ96391

        and

        WBSDE9342YBZ96710
        You can log onto the carfax website and pay the small fee to get the history on these cars, that's if the previous owner/companies/insurance companies posted anything on these sites, I doubt will provide the service for free, possibly a BMW dealership will.
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        Old 13th December 2005, 05:56   #3 (permalink)
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        Re: Vin/ car fax help

        Good News -- Vehicle qualifies for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee! No severe problems (major accidents, fire, flood damage, major odometer problems or lemon history) were ever reported by a Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) for this 2000 BMW M5 (WBSDE9341YBZ96391). If you find that any of these severe problems were reported by a DMV and not included in this report, CARFAX will buy this vehicle back.

        You must register at www.CARFAX.com to activate this free guarantee!


        CARFAX Talking CarTM
        The story of this 2000 BMW M5 (WBSDE9341YBZ96391) according to our interpretation of the information reported to CARFAX:
        This sedan has had 2 owners and was owned in California. The first title for this sedan was reported to CARFAX by a California DMV in 2000.
        It has had no minor or moderate accidents reported to CARFAX.
        It has had no DMV-reported total loss events, like a major accident, fire or flood.
        It has not been reported by a DMV as having an Exceeds Mechanical Limits or Not Actual Mileage title.
        It has a consistent mileage history with no indication of an odometer rollback. It was driven an average of 8,760 miles per year, which is lower than the industry average of 15,000. The last odometer reading, reported on 08/26/2004, was 36,086 miles.
        It was not reported by a DMV as a Manufacturer Buyback or LEMON.
        Its basic warranty has expired. You may want to discuss an extended warranty with your dealer.
        Go to the Detailed Vehicle History for the complete history and a glossary of terms.


        Report Summary
        1. ACCIDENT CHECK

        Total Loss Check No Severe Accidents Reported by a DMV - Buyback Guarantee!
        Other Accident Indicators No Accident Indicators Reported
        2. MILEAGE ACCURACY CHECK

        Truth-In-Mileage Check No Odometer Problems Reported by a DMV - Buyback Guarantee!
        Odometer Rollback Check No Potential Odometer Rollback Found
        Mileage Consistency Check No Inconsistent Odometer Reading Found
        3. LEMON CHECKŪ
        No Mfr. Buyback Reported by a DMV - Buyback Guarantee!
        4. OWNERSHIP CHECK

        Number of Owners 2 Estimated Owner(s)
        Type of Owners Checked 8 Types of Vehicle Registrations
        5. RECALL CHECK
        BMW Does Not Report Recalls to CARFAX
        DETAILED VEHICLE HISTORY 13 HISTORY RECORDS REPORTED







        Year/Make/Model: 2000 BMW M5

        Body Style: SEDAN 4 DR
        Engine: 5.0L V8 16V
        Fuel: GASOLINE
        Driveline: REAR WHEEL DRIVE
        Manufactured in: GERMANY
        Safety Equipment: 4 wheel ABS, Running Lights Optional, Dual air bags front, head, and sides/active (manual) belts with automatic passenger sensor

        Standard Equipment: Power Windows, Power Steering, Air Conditioning, AM / FM CD, Power Brakes, Power sun / moon roof, Tilt Wheel, 6-digit Odometer





        Total Loss Check:


        GOOD NEWS! No severe damage events were ever reported by a DMV for this 2000 BMW M5 (WBSDE9341YBZ96391). If you find that any of the following severe problems were reported by a DMV and not included in this report, CARFAX will buy this vehicle back. You must register to activate this free guarantee!


        Salvage Title Loss Due To Fire Title
        Junk Title Flood Damage Title
        Rebuilt/Reconstructed Title Hail Damage Title
        Dismantled Title Canadian Total Loss


        Other Accident Indicators:


        This 2000 BMW M5 (WBSDE9341YBZ96391) had no accident indicators reported to CARFAX from its sources. This section checks for accidents and/or related damage reported from many public and private sources. Not all accidents are reported to CARFAX. A vehicle inspection completed by your dealer or professional mechanic is recommended.

        No Salvage Auction Record Reported No Crash Test Vehicle Record Reported
        No Fire Damage Record Reported No Airbag Deployment Record Reported
        No Automotive Recycler Record Reported No Damage Disclosure Record Reported
        No Frame Damage Record Reported No Collision Repair Facility Record Reported
        No Police Accident Record Reported

        CARFAX depends on public and private sources for its accident data. Each one of these sources has different processing times. CARFAX can only report what is in our database on 12.Dec.2005 21:53:15. New data will result in a change to this report.






        Truth-In-Mileage Check:


        GOOD NEWS! No major odometer problems were ever reported by a DMV under the Truth-In-Mileage Act for this 2000 BMW M5 (WBSDE9341YBZ96391). If you find that any of the following odometer problems were reported by a DMV and not included in this report, CARFAX will buy this vehicle back. You must register to activate this free guarantee!

        Not Actual Mileage Title - issued by DMV when the owner discloses mileage fraud or a broken odometer.
        Exceeds Mechanical Limits Title - issued by DMV when the owner discloses an odometer rollover.


        Odometer Rollback Check:


        CARFAX found no odometer rollbacks for this 2000 BMW M5 (WBSDE9341YBZ96391). Rollbacks reported in this section originate from readings collected by a DMV or other verifiable source.

        Mileage Consistency Check:


        CARFAX found no inconsistent odometer readings in the mileage history of this 2000 BMW M5 (WBSDE9341YBZ96391).

        Date: Mileage:
        06/21/2000 15
        02/14/2001 6,680
        11/30/2001 12,452
        01/30/2002 13,577
        07/03/2002 17,650
        03/10/2003 23,658
        05/05/2003 24,853
        06/28/2003 25,800
        10/16/2003 28,249
        01/19/2004 30,291
        08/26/2004 36,086



        Average miles driven per year 8,760 CARFAX AdvisorTM Compare this vehicle's average annual mileage to the industry average of 15,000 miles per year. Use this comparison to determine how this vehicle was driven.






        GOOD NEWS! No manufacturer buyback was ever reported by a DMV for this 2000 BMW M5 (WBSDE9341YBZ96391). If you find that a manufacturer buyback was reported by a DMV and not included in this report, CARFAX will buy this vehicle back. You must register to activate this free guarantee!






        Ownership History:


        CARFAX estimates that this 2000 BMW M5 (WBSDE9341YBZ96391) had 2 owner(s). CARFAX analyzed this vehicle's title history and other supporting events to identify potential ownership transfers. In compliance with the U.S. privacy laws, CARFAX does not collect or report owner names or addresses.

        Estimated Owners: Date: Location:
        1st owner 07/20/2000 California
        2nd owner 06/28/2003 California

        Types of Owners:


        This 2000 BMW M5 (WBSDE9341YBZ96391) was checked for 8 types of registrations.

        No Personal Use Registration Reported No Fleet Registration Reported
        Lease Registration Reported No Commercial Registration Reported
        No Rental Registration Reported No Non-Profit Registration Reported
        No Taxi Registration Reported No Built to Non U.S. Standards Record Reported






        BMW does not report recall information for specific vehicles to CARFAX.
        You can contact an authorized dealership or BMW at 1-800-334-4269 to find out if this 2000 BMW M5 (WBSDE9341YBZ96391) still has recalls that require repair.




        CARFAX searched more than 4 billion records from over 7,600 sources and found 13 record(s) for this 2000 BMW M5 (WBSDE9341YBZ96391).

        Date:
        Mileage Reading:
        Source:
        General Comments:


        06/21/2000 15 California
        Motor Vehicle Dept.
        Oakland, CA
        Odometer reading reported for title
        or registration


        07/20/2000 California
        Motor Vehicle Dept.
        Oakland, CA
        Title issued or updated
        First owner reported
        Registered as
        lease vehicle
        Loan or lien reported


        02/14/2001 6,680 Service Facility
        Vehicle serviced


        11/30/2001 12,452 Service Facility
        Vehicle serviced
        Lubed oil and filter changed


        01/30/2002 13,577 Service Facility
        Vehicle serviced


        07/03/2002 17,650 Service Facility
        Vehicle serviced
        Suspension system serviced


        03/10/2003 23,658 Service Facility
        Vehicle serviced


        05/05/2003 24,853 Service Facility
        Vehicle serviced


        06/28/2003 25,800 California
        Motor Vehicle Dept.
        San Francisco, CA
        Title issued or updated
        New owner reported


        10/16/2003 28,249 Service Facility
        Vehicle serviced
        Electrical system serviced


        01/19/2004 30,291 Service Facility
        Vehicle serviced
        Electrical system serviced


        08/26/2004 36,086 Service Facility
        Vehicle serviced
        Brakes serviced


        11/18/2005 Dealer Inventory
        Berkeley, CA
        Vehicle offered for sale


        Detailed Vehicle History Definitions:

        First Owner
        When the first owner(s) obtains a title from a Department of Motor Vehicles as proof of ownership.

        Lease
        When someone leases a car from a dealer, the dealer actually sells the vehicle to a leasing company. The leasing company then collects payments for the vehicle from the new owner for 24, 36, 48 or more months. A leasing company can be an independent car dealer or a car manufacturer.

        New Owner Reported
        When a vehicle is sold to a new owner, the Title must be transferred to the new owner(s) at a Department of Motor Vehicles.




        CARFAX VEHICLE HISTORY REPORT COURTESY OF MERCEDES-BENZ OF BELLEVUE
        CARFAX BUYBACK GUARANTEE


        If you find that any of these severe problems were reported by a Department of Motor Vehicles and were not included in this report, CARFAX will buy this vehicle back.

        Severe Damage: Odometer Problems: Lemon History:
        Salvage/Junk

        Rebuilt/Reconstructed

        Dismantled

        Fire/Flood/Hail

        Canadian Total Loss
        Exceeds Mechanical Limits

        Not Actual Mileage
        Manufacturer Buyback


        Your CARFAX Buyback Coverage:
        Vehicle: Transferable Coverage: Activation:
        2000 BMW M5
        WBSDE9341YBZ96391 12/12/2005 - 12/12/2006 REQUIRED --
        ACTIVATE TODAY!
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        Old 13th December 2005, 05:57   #4 (permalink)
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        Re: Vin/ car fax help

        Good News -- Vehicle qualifies for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee! No severe problems (major accidents, fire, flood damage, major odometer problems or lemon history) were ever reported by a Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) for this 2000 BMW M5 (WBSDE9342YBZ96710). If you find that any of these severe problems were reported by a DMV and not included in this report, CARFAX will buy this vehicle back.

        You must register at www.CARFAX.com to activate this free guarantee!


        CARFAX Talking CarTM
        The story of this 2000 BMW M5 (WBSDE9342YBZ96710) according to our interpretation of the information reported to CARFAX:
        This sedan has had 4 owners and was owned in Illinois, Georgia and Florida. It was originally registered by the owner for personal use.
        It was inspected at a collision repair facility after an accident or other incident. A vehicle inspection completed by your dealer or professional inspector is recommended.
        It has had no DMV-reported total loss events, like a major accident, fire or flood.
        It has not been reported by a DMV as having an Exceeds Mechanical Limits or Not Actual Mileage title.
        It has a consistent mileage history with no indication of an odometer rollback. It was driven an average of 8,030 miles per year, which is lower than the industry average of 15,000. The last odometer reading, reported on 11/16/2005, was 44,776 miles.
        It was not reported by a DMV as a Manufacturer Buyback or LEMON.
        Its basic warranty has expired. You may want to discuss an extended warranty with your dealer.
        Go to the Detailed Vehicle History for the complete history and a glossary of terms.


        Report Summary
        1. ACCIDENT CHECK

        Total Loss Check No Severe Accidents Reported by a DMV - Buyback Guarantee!
        Other Accident Indicators Accident Indicator Reported
        2. MILEAGE ACCURACY CHECK

        Truth-In-Mileage Check No Odometer Problems Reported by a DMV - Buyback Guarantee!
        Odometer Rollback Check No Potential Odometer Rollback Found
        Mileage Consistency Check No Inconsistent Odometer Reading Found
        3. LEMON CHECKŪ
        No Mfr. Buyback Reported by a DMV - Buyback Guarantee!
        4. OWNERSHIP CHECK

        Number of Owners 4 Estimated Owner(s)
        Type of Owners Originally Registered as a Personal Vehicle
        5. RECALL CHECK
        BMW Does Not Report Recalls to CARFAX
        DETAILED VEHICLE HISTORY 16 HISTORY RECORDS REPORTED







        Year/Make/Model: 2000 BMW M5

        Body Style: SEDAN 4 DR
        Engine: 5.0L V8 16V
        Fuel: GASOLINE
        Driveline: REAR WHEEL DRIVE
        Manufactured in: GERMANY
        Safety Equipment: 4 wheel ABS, Running Lights Optional, Dual air bags front, head, and sides/active (manual) belts with automatic passenger sensor

        Standard Equipment: Power Windows, Power Steering, Air Conditioning, AM / FM CD, Power Brakes, Power sun / moon roof, Tilt Wheel, 6-digit Odometer





        Total Loss Check:


        GOOD NEWS! No severe damage events were ever reported by a DMV for this 2000 BMW M5 (WBSDE9342YBZ96710). If you find that any of the following severe problems were reported by a DMV and not included in this report, CARFAX will buy this vehicle back. You must register to activate this free guarantee!


        Salvage Title Loss Due To Fire Title
        Junk Title Flood Damage Title
        Rebuilt/Reconstructed Title Hail Damage Title
        Dismantled Title Canadian Total Loss


        Other Accident Indicators:


        This 2000 BMW M5 (WBSDE9342YBZ96710) had accident indicators reported to CARFAX from its sources. This section checks for accidents and/or related damage reported from many public and private sources. Not all accidents are reported to CARFAX. A vehicle inspection completed by your dealer or professional mechanic is recommended.

        No Salvage Auction Record Reported No Crash Test Vehicle Record Reported
        No Fire Damage Record Reported No Airbag Deployment Record Reported
        No Automotive Recycler Record Reported No Damage Disclosure Record Reported
        No Frame Damage Record Reported Collision Repair Facility Record Reported
        No Police Accident Record Reported

        Accident Indicators Detail:
        Date: Source: Detail:
        01/30/2004 Collision Repair Facility Vehicle inspected after an
        accident or other incident.
        A vehicle inspection completed
        by your dealer or professional
        inspector is recommended

        CARFAX began reporting information from this source on 05/06/2005


        According to the National Safety Council, Injury Facts, 2003 edition, 12% of the 243 million registered vehicles in the U.S. were involved in an accident in 2002. Over 90% of these were considered minor or moderate.
        CARFAX depends on public and private sources for its accident data. Each one of these sources has different processing times. CARFAX can only report what is in our database on 12.Dec.2005 21:55:11. New data will result in a change to this report.






        Truth-In-Mileage Check:


        GOOD NEWS! No major odometer problems were ever reported by a DMV under the Truth-In-Mileage Act for this 2000 BMW M5 (WBSDE9342YBZ96710). If you find that any of the following odometer problems were reported by a DMV and not included in this report, CARFAX will buy this vehicle back. You must register to activate this free guarantee!

        Not Actual Mileage Title - issued by DMV when the owner discloses mileage fraud or a broken odometer.
        Exceeds Mechanical Limits Title - issued by DMV when the owner discloses an odometer rollover.


        Odometer Rollback Check:


        CARFAX found no odometer rollbacks for this 2000 BMW M5 (WBSDE9342YBZ96710). Rollbacks reported in this section originate from readings collected by a DMV or other verifiable source.

        Mileage Consistency Check:


        CARFAX found no inconsistent odometer readings in the mileage history of this 2000 BMW M5 (WBSDE9342YBZ96710).

        Date: Mileage:
        11/15/2000 4
        05/11/2001 6,766
        06/29/2001 7,347
        12/21/2001 10,800
        07/31/2002 16,591
        02/27/2003 21,889
        09/04/2003 26,644
        11/05/2003 28,179
        02/06/2004 30,195
        06/14/2004 33,173
        11/16/2005 44,776



        Average miles driven per year 8,030 CARFAX AdvisorTM Compare this vehicle's average annual mileage to the industry average of 15,000 miles per year. Use this comparison to determine how this vehicle was driven.






        GOOD NEWS! No manufacturer buyback was ever reported by a DMV for this 2000 BMW M5 (WBSDE9342YBZ96710). If you find that a manufacturer buyback was reported by a DMV and not included in this report, CARFAX will buy this vehicle back. You must register to activate this free guarantee!






        Ownership History:


        CARFAX estimates that this 2000 BMW M5 (WBSDE9342YBZ96710) had 4 owner(s). CARFAX analyzed this vehicle's title history and other supporting events to identify potential ownership transfers. In compliance with the U.S. privacy laws, CARFAX does not collect or report owner names or addresses.

        Estimated Owners: Date: Location:
        1st owner 06/24/2000 Illinois
        2nd owner 05/11/2001 Illinois
        3rd owner 12/21/2001 Georgia
        4th owner 09/30/2003 Florida

        Types of Owners:


        This 2000 BMW M5 (WBSDE9342YBZ96710) was checked for 8 types of registrations.

        Personal Use Registration Reported No Fleet Registration Reported
        Lease Registration Reported Commercial Registration Reported
        No Rental Registration Reported No Non-Profit Registration Reported
        No Taxi Registration Reported No Built to Non U.S. Standards Record Reported






        BMW does not report recall information for specific vehicles to CARFAX.
        You can contact an authorized dealership or BMW at 1-800-334-4269 to find out if this 2000 BMW M5 (WBSDE9342YBZ96710) still has recalls that require repair.




        CARFAX searched more than 4 billion records from over 7,600 sources and found 16 record(s) for this 2000 BMW M5 (WBSDE9342YBZ96710).

        Date:
        Mileage Reading:
        Source:
        General Comments:


        06/24/2000 Illinois
        Motor Vehicle Dept.
        Buffalo Grove, IL
        First owner reported
        Registered as
        personal vehicle


        11/15/2000 4 Illinois
        Motor Vehicle Dept.
        Buffalo Grove, IL
        Title #T0320061011
        Title or registration issued
        Title issued or updated


        05/11/2001 6,766 Illinois
        Motor Vehicle Dept.
        Winnetka, IL
        Title #T1131620226
        Title or registration issued
        Title issued or updated
        New owner reported


        06/29/2001 7,347 Illinois
        Motor Vehicle Dept.
        Glenview, IL
        Title #T1180600563
        Title issued or updated
        Title or registration issued


        12/21/2001 10,800 Georgia
        Motor Vehicle Dept.
        Winnetka, IL
        Title #1917013557002
        Title issued or updated
        Registration issued or renewed
        New owner reported
        Loan or lien reported
        Registered as lease vehicle


        07/31/2002 16,591 Service Facility
        Vehicle serviced
        Lubed oil and filter changed


        02/27/2003 21,889 Service Facility
        Vehicle serviced
        Air conditioning serviced
        Electrical system serviced
        Emissions system serviced
        Brakes serviced


        09/04/2003 26,644 Florida
        Motor Vehicle Dept.
        Winnetka, IL
        Title #0088911945
        Odometer reading reported for title
        or registration


        09/30/2003 Florida
        Motor Vehicle Dept.
        Winnetka, IL
        Title #0088911945
        Title issued or updated
        Registration issued or renewed
        New owner reported
        Loan or lien reported
        Registered as commercial vehicle
        Registered as lease vehicle
        Vehicle color noted as Dark Blue


        11/05/2003 28,179 Service Facility
        Vehicle serviced


        01/30/2004 Collision Repair Facility
        Florida
        Vehicle inspected after an
        accident or other incident.
        A vehicle inspection completed
        by your dealer or professional
        inspector is recommended

        CARFAX began reporting information from this source on 05/06/2005


        02/06/2004 30,195 Service Facility
        Vehicle serviced
        Lubed oil and filter changed


        06/14/2004 33,173 Service Facility
        Vehicle serviced
        Engine serviced


        09/23/2004 Florida
        Motor Vehicle Dept.
        Lakeland, FL
        Title #0088911945
        Registration issued or renewed
        Loan or lien reported
        Registered as commercial vehicle
        Registered as lease vehicle
        Vehicle color noted as Dark Blue


        11/16/2005 44,776 Auto Auction
        Sold at auction
        in Georgia
        Listed as
        a fleet vehicle


        12/02/2005 Dealer Inventory
        Berkeley, CA
        Vehicle offered for sale


        Detailed Vehicle History Definitions:

        Collision Repair Facility
        A collision repair facility specializes in repairing vehicle damage caused by accidents and other incidents. A vehicle inspection completed by your dealer or a professional inspector is recommended.

        Commercial
        Vehicle was registered for business purposes.

        First Owner
        When the first owner(s) obtains a title from a Department of Motor Vehicles as proof of ownership.

        Lease
        When someone leases a car from a dealer, the dealer actually sells the vehicle to a leasing company. The leasing company then collects payments for the vehicle from the new owner for 24, 36, 48 or more months. A leasing company can be an independent car dealer or a car manufacturer.

        New Owner Reported
        When a vehicle is sold to a new owner, the Title must be transferred to the new owner(s) at a Department of Motor Vehicles.

        Personal Use
        Vehicle was registered by the owner for private or personal use.




        CARFAX VEHICLE HISTORY REPORT COURTESY OF MERCEDES-BENZ OF BELLEVUE
        CARFAX BUYBACK GUARANTEE


        If you find that any of these severe problems were reported by a Department of Motor Vehicles and were not included in this report, CARFAX will buy this vehicle back.
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        Old 13th December 2005, 06:00   #5 (permalink)
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        Re: Vin/ car fax help

        hmm that didnt turn out the way i was hoping it would.
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        Re: Vin/ car fax help

        Not to hijack the thread, but I could use a carfax as well for the M5 I'm looking at, if anyone is willing I'll provide the VIN via PM.

        *hint, hint* fastestlap. lol.

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        Re: Vin/ car fax help

        CAREFUL with the second one- Georgia is a state that allows titles to be washed. It may have been totaled, then fixed, titeld in georgia so as to not have anything show up on carfax



        Get a bmw history as well. PAY for an independent inspection- NOT a bmw dealer's cpo pos inspection....
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        Re: Vin/ car fax help

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        CAREFUL with the second one- Georgia is a state that allows titles to be washed. It may have been totaled, then fixed, titeld in georgia so as to not have anything show up on carfax



        Get a bmw history as well. PAY for an independent inspection- NOT a bmw dealer's cpo pos inspection....
        First off, you guys RULE!

        Thanks (fastestlap) for the help, odlly enough they want more for the second car, but fortunately I have a very reputable independant bmw mechanic on the peninsula I can take both to see.

        One other question, am i reading this tight that the inservice dates are about 6/2000 and 11/2000?
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        Re: Vin/ car fax help

        one of the cars was in a accident its hard to read the car fax how it was pasted on the thread. sorry about that. but the second one has an accedent indicator. i dont know if anyone noticed it.
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